California Judge Does The Unthinkable: Reinstates Obama Eligibility Lawsuit To Find Out Who The Hell He Actually Is. (FBI, brainwash)
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I'm not a "birther". Where the fool was born is irrelevant, and I don't care.
HOWEVER, I certainly WOULD like a viable explanation of the school records from Indonesia showing that his name is BARRY SOETORO, and that he was a CITIZEN OF INDONESIA, and a MUSLIM.
I have read that Indonesia does NOT allow dual citizenship, so the only way he could have been a citizen of that country would be to renounce his U.S. citizenship. If he did that, where is the record of him having regained his U.S. citizenship?
How about the records of the name changes: From Obama to Soetoro, then back to Obama?
I have read that "once a Muslim, always a Muslim": They will KILL you if you convert to Christianity. Why haven't they been hunting for him?
Of course, it is entirely possible that the school record is FRAUDULENT, and the FRAUD was perpetrated by his mother and step-father, as a matter of convenience.
Hmmm...the son of a drunk and a fraud..."The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree!" "Like Father, like son!" etc.
Please note that there is NOTHING about his BIRTH in the above questions!
If this Orly Taitz character had any credibility and didnt come off as a moron, perhaps id take this seriously. But after seeing this woman debate or try and explain herself, I cant. She comes off as a complete moron and I struggle to see how she was smart enough to pass a bar exam
HOWEVER, I certainly WOULD like a viable explanation of the school records from Indonesia showing that his name is BARRY SOETORO, and that he was a CITIZEN OF INDONESIA, and a MUSLIM.
you mean the application filled out by Lolo Soetoro before Stanely and Barack arrived in Indonesia? The one where Barack Obama could not be responsible for what his step-father wrote on the application? The one that SAYS that he was born in Hawaii?
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I have read that Indonesia does NOT allow dual citizenship, so the only way he could have been a citizen of that country would be to renounce his U.S. citizenship.
Its true. And Barack Obama was too old to become a citizen of Indonesia. to gain citizenship, barack would have to have been adopted by Lolo, and he wasn't. He was too old to be adopted (less than 5 years of age). He was 6 when he arrived in Indonesia.
Since Barack was too old to be adopted, he was too young to earn it the other way:
Be 18 years of age
Speak and read Indonesian fluently
Hold a job and earn a living on his own
Renounce his US Citizenship (Barack was too young).
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If he did that, where is the record of him having regained his U.S. citizenship?
He didn't so this is irrelevant.
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How about the records of the name changes: From Obama to Soetoro, then back to Obama?
since he didn't change his name (a minor can't change his name without an adult) this is also irrelevant.
I have read that Indonesia does NOT allow dual citizenship, so the only way he could have been a citizen of that country would be to renounce his U.S. citizenship. If he did that, where is the record of him having regained his U.S. citizenship?
read up on indonesian citizenship requirements and a minor renouncing US citizenship:
"Therefore, parents may not renounce the citizenship of their minor children. Similarly, parents/legal guardians may not renounce the citizenship of individuals who are mentally incompetent. Minors seeking to renounce their U.S. citizenship must demonstrate to a consular officer that they are acting voluntarily and that they fully understand the implications/consequences attendant to the renunciation of U.S. citizenship."
How about the records of the name changes: From Obama to Soetoro, then back to Obama?
there is no evidence of a legal name change. bill clinton used his step father's name for nearly 10 years before legally changing it. gerald ford used his step father's name for nearly 20 years before the legal change.
I'm not a "birther". Where the fool was born is irrelevant, and I don't care.
HOWEVER, I certainly WOULD like a viable explanation of the school records from Indonesia showing that his name is BARRY SOETORO, and that he was a CITIZEN OF INDONESIA, and a MUSLIM.
That is how his stepfather apparently registered him, before Obama had ever even set foot in the country of Indonesia. You do know he was 6 years old, right?
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I have read that Indonesia does NOT allow dual citizenship, so the only way he could have been a citizen of that country would be to renounce his U.S. citizenship. If he did that, where is the record of him having regained his U.S. citizenship?
Under US law (now and at that time) there is nothing that Obama, his mother, his step-father, or the government of Indonesia could have done that would have revoked his US citizenship.
A six-year-old cannot renounce.
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How about the records of the name changes: From Obama to Soetoro, then back to Obama?
There are none because no names we ever changed. Obama is only one of at least three Presidents of the United States who briefly used their step-father's surname without a legal name change. The other two are Bill Clinton and Gerald Ford.
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I have read that "once a Muslim, always a Muslim": They will KILL you if you convert to Christianity. Why haven't they been hunting for him?
The answer is an obvious one. He was never a Muslim.
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Of course, it is entirely possible that the school record is FRAUDULENT, and the FRAUD was perpetrated by his mother and step-father, as a matter of convenience.
Or that the registration is simply wrong.
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Hmmm...the son of a drunk and a fraud..."The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree!" "Like Father, like son!" etc.
Oh? Was his father the most powerful person in the world too?
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Please note that there is NOTHING about his BIRTH in the above questions!
I'm not a "birther". Where the fool was born is irrelevant, and I don't care.
HOWEVER, I certainly WOULD like a viable explanation of the school records from Indonesia showing that his name is BARRY SOETORO, and that he was a CITIZEN OF INDONESIA, and a MUSLIM.
I have read that Indonesia does NOT allow dual citizenship, so the only way he could have been a citizen of that country would be to renounce his U.S. citizenship. If he did that, where is the record of him having regained his U.S. citizenship?
How about the records of the name changes: From Obama to Soetoro, then back to Obama?
I have read that "once a Muslim, always a Muslim": They will KILL you if you convert to Christianity. Why haven't they been hunting for him?
Of course, it is entirely possible that the school record is FRAUDULENT, and the FRAUD was perpetrated by his mother and step-father, as a matter of convenience.
Hmmm...the son of a drunk and a fraud..."The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree!" "Like Father, like son!" etc.
Please note that there is NOTHING about his BIRTH in the above questions!
Anyone who thinks Baracky is who he says he is deserves the country his legacy will leave. Thankfully, I'm old and won't be around to see the destruction and downfall.
And watch the little morons deflect to Orly, who has nothing to do with the person who is Baracky.
When is this going to happen. I've been hearing that crap for 5 years and yet somehow the sun rises each morning. You guys take paranoia to epic levels.
Did you know McCain was born in PANAMA! Did you care? How much agent orange did you smoke man?
If that were true, I'd support deporting him too.
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