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Old 02-07-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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Atlas, Shrugged is a great piece of literature. Most, if not all intellectuals in America have already read it, or arre at least familiar with it.

The issue here is getting classics and a solid educational foundation back in school. My fellow democrats hate when I say this, and here in Florida, it was a former republican governor, Jethro Bush who created most of the public school mess we have now.

In our society, thanks to the internet, we are seeing colonies of twitter experts and internet educated degree holders whose education is based not on a foundation of knowledge, learning and understanding, but rather an expertise in who is wearing what and which celebrity can fart the loudest.

Going back to a foundation of classics, whether kids like it or not, is neccesary. If a person c wishes to remain uneducated, then so be it. But as tax payers we have the right and as paretns we have the duty to instill learning in our children. Adding Atlas, Shrugged to the mix and removing some of the late 20th century garbage would be a good start.
Whence the extra comma in the title? It's not only wrong, it's nonsensical.

Anyway, as others have pointed out: Using government coercion to force people to read a novel that praises Objectivism is the philosophical equivalent of dividing by zero.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I read Anna Karenina and War & Peace in 8th grade.
Congratulations.

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James Fenimore Cooper's "Last of the Mohicans" is one of the best stories I ever read...
The Deerslayer qualifies as one of the worst I ever read.

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Only the underachievers, dyslexic and those unable to read hated reading the books assigned.

Oh... And the jocks but they were usually two of the above groups.
Well, back in my day it was the dweebs and apple-polishers who acted as though they enjoyed reading that stuff.

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Old 02-07-2013, 02:47 PM
 
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Congratulations.


James Fenimore Cooper's "Last of the Mohicans" is one of the best stories I ever read...

The Deerslayer qualifies as one of the worst I ever read.



Well, back in my day it was the dweebs and apple-polishers who acted as though they enjoyed reading that stuff.
I was a nerd in high school. Oops.

I didn't like Deerslayer though.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And what expertise and knowledge do you have to declare the above mentioned as "junk" and "Lousy literature"?
Because I had to read:

Dickens: A Tale of Two Cities

Cooper: The Deerslayer

Hawthorne: The Scarlet Letter

Verbose, dull, and outdated. Same as Atlas Shrugged; another yawner.

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Last I checked, these are "Classics" for a reason. Perhaps you just do not understand that ?
I understand that Model Ts are considered classics. I prefer a 2 seat T-Bird, also a classic.

I understand that the dross turned out by the likes of Dickens and Rand pales in comparison to Kerouac and Hemmingway. But feel free to keep enjoying it. Different strokes and all that.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:54 PM
 
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I was a nerd in high school. Oops.
I thought I was a jock, but I was really more of a dork.

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I didn't like Deerslayer though.
We certainly agree on that point.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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I thought I was a jock, but I was really more of a dork.



We certainly agree on that point.
Someone mentioned Battlefield Earth.

That was an awesome book. The only people I've known that hated it were people that watched the dumb movie and didn't actually read the book.

It's like Starship Troopers. Awesome book but the movie blew...
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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Someone mentioned Battlefield Earth.

That was an awesome book. The only people I've known that hated it were people that watched the dumb movie and didn't actually read the book.

It's like Starship Troopers. Awesome book but the movie blew...

Haven't read either of those. But I've often heard that Heinlein is good. I've always liked Arthur C Clarke for sci-fi.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:58 AM
 
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Why would the Idaho Senate what to require "Atlas Shrugged" to be read in school?
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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Atlas Shrugged has no more place in a high school reading list than a Harlequin Romance would.
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