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And you are affirming respondsible behavior by all civilians towards returning Viet Nam vets. Prove it. No hearsay or "I never heard of it" bs, actual proof.
But you weren't. So you know from "personal" nothing. This is how all Urban Legends are sustained, from the most plausible to the most idiotic.
Most soldiers, sailors and airman are liars. It is part of the military culture. All war stories begin with "This is a no-sh*t story..."
The burden of proof is on the affirmative.
How in the hell did you come up with a name referring to history with garbage like this?
Sorry, the burden is on those that are calling the vets liars.
I guess you don't think Thomas Jefferson didn't write the Declaration of Independence because all we have is somebody's word being past on for over 200 years.
I am so glad to see the great respect you have for our Veterans.
You can't appeal to me with ad hominen references to lynching. The photos are there.
Spitting on returning soldiers? No evidence exists, and I don't need to try and prove a negative. Waste of my time.
It's simple really...the stories simply don't add up. The fact that not one single blotter report exists in any west coast port call city showing that at least one out of thousands of returning troops never retaliated is ample proof that it's a big ol lie. Every claim.
What REALLY happened is that Vietnam vets watched Rambo too many times and were inspired by the "spitting and baby killer" (that didn't happen either) line in the movie.
" The photos are there." Concerning how some you view the issue of spitting some of us could say those photos were fake. Couldn't we?
The "reason" to justify denying the issue is, "we don't have any photos".
We don't have photos of a lot of things even you believe, I'd bet.
Show me a photo of Washington crossing the Delaware.
Show me a photo of Lincoln being shot.
You either believe, or you don't. IF you don't you shouldn't demean those that do. It doesn't do well for ones reputation.
No, the process thru which any legislator is chosen is still intact and was one of the things the fear mongers told us Vietnam threatened. How those legislators bungle the jobs they were chosen to do is a whole 'nother matter.
Are you hallunicating? The Vietnam War and our entrance into it had NOTHING to do with that. It had to do with, at that time, the belief in what was called the Domino Theory. That once the Communists got a foothold in Vietnam all the neighboring s'east Asian countries would fall to them like dominoes. It was o become the reference of criticism of a foreign policy widely described as "making the world safe for democracy". Imo, a justifiable assertion. Go to your local library and read a REAL history book.
So your "fear monger" prattle, trying to link a fear of loss of the process by which OUR legislators are chosen as to a reason for our entrance in the Vietnam War..., is pure BUNK!
If you're not hallucinating I suggest you get help to get off whatever you're adicted to.
My point of comment that you attempted to declare wrong is accurate.
How in the hell did you come up with a name referring to history with garbage like this?
Uuhhhh... perhaps you should first have made your case that they are in conflict, ya think?
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Sorry, the burden is on those that are calling the vets liars.
Actually, it's not.
The burden of proof is always in the affirmative. And the only affirmative claim in this thread is that Vets were spit on. Anybody can tell a story, and anybody else can pass it on second or third hand.
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I guess you don't think Thomas Jefferson didn't write the Declaration of Independence because all we have is somebody's word being past on for over 200 years.
Not everybody's word is created equal.
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I am so glad to see the great respect you have for our Veterans.
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Are you hallunicating? The Vietnam War and our entrance into it had NOTHING to do with that. It had to do with, at that time, the belief in what was called the Domino Theory. That once the Communists got a foothold in Vietnam all the neighboring s'east Asian countries would fall to them like dominoes. It was o become the reference of criticism of a foreign policy widely described as "making the world safe for democracy". Imo, a justifiable assertion. Go to your local library and read a REAL history book.
You're hallucinating if you think any part of the Domino Theory other than "If the pizza isn't there in 30 minutes, it's free" was/is valid.
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So your "fear monger" prattle, trying to link a fear of loss of the process by which OUR legislators are chosen as to a reason for our entrance in the Vietnam War..., is pure BUNK!
Take your pick, we were fed all kinds of BS as reason for war from the asinine Domino Theory, phantom attacks in the Tonkin Gulf, the good ol' we gotta fight for hot dogs, baseball, and apple pie, go kill a commie! for Christ, to the lie that if South Vietnam went communist, America as we knew it would die.
The BUNK is that there was ever a good reason to become involved in that debacle in the first place.
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If you're not hallucinating I suggest you get help to get off whatever you're adicted to.
My point of comment that you attempted to declare wrong is accurate.
I suggest you seek help for your belief in fairytales.
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for Christ, to the lie that if South Vietnam went communist, America as we knew it would die.