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Old 03-07-2013, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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Baggers used to be common in grocery stores; they worked in checkout lanes and bagged each customer's groceries as they were rung up. Alas, as grocery stores evolved into supermarkets, and pricing became more competitive, very few stores still employ baggers today.
I guess that bagging our groceries, while a nice little service to offer, isn't worth the local minimum wage.
Another low paying job by the wayside, and another unemployed person, thanks to the feel good policy of "minimum wages."
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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True...

...But in a free economy, there are people who have no choice.

In a free housing market, these people would have more and cheaper housing options, which in turn would allow them some choice in working crappy jobs.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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Well, we raised the minimum wage many times over the years which has not resulted in any significant rise in the cost of living. This is not virgin historical territory.
Are you asserting that there has been no cost of living increase since any increase in minimum wage? Would you put a time frame on that ridiculous assertion, so it can properly be refuted?
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:33 PM
 
Location: central Oregon
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Adjusted for today's dollars...

...That's about 9!
And to think I felt rich back then.

I worked part-time at night and averaged about $50. a week. I was 17 and still living with mom and dad. Half my wages went to them until I graduated and moved out on my own. I had enough spending money to enjoy my weekends.
What a life.

My last job I was making $100. a day doing Home Health Care. 200 hours a month was a lot of work and a lot of pay. I miss the pay (and my client), but not the job itself.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by andrea3821
'I was telling the poster that if he wants to go to law school, he should go and get student loans for it. A law student will pretty much always find a job in his field. Student loan for a liberal arts degree? No. I'm tired of that particular poster whining about his lot in life when he does literally nothing to change it.'


Many recent law school graduates are having trouble finding employment, including this one, who four years after graduating is on food stamps:


Law School Unemployment Crisis - Business Insider
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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I disagree. Considering the fact that the majority of new jobs being created are in the service industry, we need to raise the minimum wage. It's not 1955 anymore. Not everyone is going to be able to go out and get a job with a decent wage at a manufacturing plant. That world does not exist anymore.

We either raise the minimum wage or we accept that there's going to be a lot more poverty in America. It's up to us.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:09 PM
 
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I disagree. Considering the fact that the majority of new jobs being created are in the service industry, we need to raise the minimum wage. It's not 1955 anymore. Not everyone is going to be able to go out and get a job with a decent wage at a manufacturing plant. That world does not exist anymore.

We either raise the minimum wage or we accept that there's going to be a lot more poverty in America. It's up to us.
I couldn't agree more. The jobs that can't be automated will remain, and an ever-increasing number will be low-level. Even medicine can be more automated than many lower-paid jobs, like call centers or cleaning or child-care. They need to increase the minimum wage because in the future more and more people will be employed in those jobs.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:14 PM
 
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I disagree. Considering the fact that the majority of new jobs being created are in the service industry, we need to raise the minimum wage. It's not 1955 anymore. Not everyone is going to be able to go out and get a job with a decent wage at a manufacturing plant. That world does not exist anymore.

We either raise the minimum wage or we accept that there's going to be a lot more poverty in America. It's up to us.
If there is a lot more money floating around the economy then the purchasing power of the dollar will drop and you don't affect poverty at all. Additionally, small businesses and businesses that don't have much profit margin but require a lot of employees will be forced to lay people off and then instead of someone making minimum wage you'll have someone making nothing.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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If there is a lot more money floating around the economy then the purchasing power of the dollar will drop and you don't affect poverty at all. Additionally, small businesses and businesses that don't have much profit margin but require a lot of employees will be forced to lay people off and then instead of someone making minimum wage you'll have someone making nothing.
I believe that the majority of minimum wage jobs are not in small business. The largest number are in fast-food service, and that tends to be large corporations as employers. You know, a small business still needs workers. Most places nowadays have the bare minimum of employees as it is. I don't know how much further most businesses could cut back on employees.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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If there is a lot more money floating around the economy then the purchasing power of the dollar will drop and you don't affect poverty at all. Additionally, small businesses and businesses that don't have much profit margin but require a lot of employees will be forced to lay people off and then instead of someone making minimum wage you'll have someone making nothing.
Haven't you heard? That is preferable because then we can expand the welfare programs and the people working can afford higher taxes.

[That was the solution actually proposed by someone on here]
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