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I guess this is what bothers me about this conversation. Somehow, minimum wage earners are seen as separate from the rest of us, and undeserving of holidays, benefits, etc.
I never felt the 4th of July was a "minor" holiday. It's the main summer holiday in our culture. As far as benefits, who needs health insurance more? The minimum wage earner, or the big bucks earner who can afford to pay cash?
Actually, retail, convenience stores, gas stations, restaurants are among the businesses likely to be open holidays, and also among the businesses that employ a lot of min. wage workers, so I can see that getting the 4th off could be an issue.
Exactly.
Key words being "a lot." It's just another day to these places and they have enough employees that they would stick to their normal weekly schedule unless there are time off requests. And as I said before, these places are MORE likely to give you time off when you ask b/c they have high turnover anyway and they don't want to have to retrain someone. I know full well that a lot of min wage employees are flaky and have no qualms with up and walking out or just not showing up for work and that is taken as them quitting, which means the company has to retrain someone else to do that position, and that is costly.
I have no problem with minimum wage earners having health insurance.
Here's then thing though most minimum wage employers have completely unaffordable insurance.
Take Walmart, more of their employees are on state benefits than not.
So, should Walmart give them better insurance resulting in us paying more?
Or should they get better jobs..
But doesn't Obamacate end this line of discussion?
I don't know all the details about the Affordable Care Act (there really is no such thing as "Obamacare"), but I do know that every business of over 50 employees has to provide insurance or pay a fine. That means a lot of hourly employees at fast-food and casual dining restaurants and retail establishments are going to be eligible for insurance.
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Key words being "a lot." It's just another day to these places and they have enough employees that they would stick to their normal weekly schedule unless there are time off requests. And as I said before, these places are MORE likely to give you time off when you ask b/c they have high turnover anyway and they don't want to have to retrain someone. I know full well that a lot of min wage employees are flaky and have no qualms with up and walking out or just not showing up for work and that is taken as them quitting, which means the company has to retrain someone else to do that position, and that is costly.
I admit that I never worked retail, fast food, convenience stores and the like. However, from what I have heard, from people who have and from my readings is that it only takes a short time, sometimes less than a day, to train these employees and they are very much considered expendable.
I don't know all the details about the Affordable Care Act (there really is no such thing as "Obamacare"), but I do know that every business of over 50 employees has to provide insurance or pay a fine. That means a lot of hourly employees at fast-food and casual dining restaurants and retail establishments are going to be eligible for insurance.
I admit that I never worked retail, fast food, convenience stores and the like. However, from what I have heard, from people who have and from my readings is that it only takes a short time, sometimes less than a day, to train these employees and they are very much considered expendable.
Just a heads up, but these people already have access to employer provided insurance.
I don't know all the details about the Affordable Care Act (there really is no such thing as "Obamacare"), but I do know that every business of over 50 employees has to provide insurance or pay a fine. That means a lot of hourly employees at fast-food and casual dining restaurants and retail establishments are going to be eligible for insurance.
Obamacare is a name for the Affordable Care Act. That's like saying because there are cars, there is no such thing as automobiles.
The insurance is for full time employees. You can cut people back to part time and avoid giving them the benefits.
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I admit that I never worked retail, fast food, convenience stores and the like. However, from what I have heard, from people who have and from my readings is that it only takes a short time, sometimes less than a day, to train these employees and they are very much considered expendable.
Depends on what their job is going to be. Obviously it takes very little to get a new Walmart greeter. It takes a bit more if someone is going to stock shelves in a store with hundreds of different products that may be priced and shelved differently. People also build up skills over time. It may take a day to teach someone to stock 10 shelves an hour, but it make that person a month before they are stocking 15 shelves an hour. Also, for each employee you have to interview, check documents, and process them into the system. It's more than just grabbing somebody off the street and telling them how to punch keys on a cash register.
I don't know all the details about the Affordable Care Act (there really is no such thing as "Obamacare"), but I do know that every business of over 50 employees has to provide insurance or pay a fine. That means a lot of hourly employees at fast-food and casual dining restaurants and retail establishments are going to be eligible for insurance.
And a lot of hourly employees who will have their hours cut or be laid off to avoid the company having to pay for insurance.
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I admit that I never worked retail, fast food, convenience stores and the like. However, from what I have heard, from people who have and from my readings is that it only takes a short time, sometimes less than a day, to train these employees and they are very much considered expendable.
Probably in some jobs, yes, but to master a position, it does take longer. There is no position in our restaurant that we can train in one day. There is a full shift of just doing orientation on the computer, filling out paperwork, going over the uniform policy and getting them on the schedule to start. That takes not only the employee but a manager (usually me). Thankfully corporate has done a lot of the informative stuff as videos and interactive computer stuff so it takes less time for the manager to review things, then training on whichever station can start more efficiently when the employee is already familiar with things.
I've held a variety of jobs, usually starting at the bottom, and there is probably only one job that I mastered in a day, and I am an intelligent person who learns quickly. It was at a call center doing market research. I got promoted a couple weeks later.
My point is, there are probably some jobs you can learn in a day but to master them takes longer, and that is where the bulk of the expense for a company comes into play, plus the time it takes for a manager to do the training, plus the cost of any errors made while the employee is learning.
That's what I keep trying to tell these people. Women aren't clamoring to marry guys who make $10/hr.
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