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Old 02-19-2013, 02:35 AM
 
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I supplied sources for my stats. Have any sources for your statement ?

If you just want more money in people's hands the Fed could do that and just mail everyone checks.

I just Asked Jeeves (TM) and below is the first hit I got. The first page was full of liberal sources; I guess conservatives don't care much to talk about this.

STUDY: One In Four Private Sector Workers Earn Less Than $10 An Hour | ThinkProgress
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:36 AM
 
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I've worked mostly for local franchisees of big names, e.g. Domino's, Little Ceasar's, Papa John's, 7-11, Hardee's. Detroit, Ann Arbor, Lansing, and Portland are not po' dunk towns.
And none of those companies gave you an annual review? Sorry, I don't buy it... Maybe it depends on the size of the franchise, but I doubt you have never seen an annual review.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:39 AM
 
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and the way the fascist liberals talk, giving the UNSKILLED a $2 raise will solve all our ills

How about we just give college graduates a $2 raise? You know, how there's supposedly a high economic return to education and such.

If the unskilled dropouts want a raise they can go to college.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:41 AM
 
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And none of those companies gave you an annual review? Sorry, I don't buy it... Maybe it depends on the size of the franchise, but I doubt you have never seen an annual review.

I've never seen an annual review. The turnover is so high that annual reviews would be pointless for hourly employees.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:47 AM
 
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I've never seen an annual review. The turnover is so high that annual reviews would be pointless for hourly employees.
One has to stay long enough for get the review. Did you ever get a raise at these places? If not, I would have quit. When I was 16 I worked for Arby's once then quit after a month a few months later went to a different one and they hired me for more than everybody else. My "experience" was the factor. lol
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:48 AM
 
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The Job-Killing Impact of Minimum Wage Laws - YouTube
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:08 AM
 
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One has to stay long enough for get the review. Did you ever get a raise at these places? If not, I would have quit. When I was 16 I worked for Arby's once then quit after a month a few months later went to a different one and they hired me for more than everybody else. My "experience" was the factor. lol

I've had raises at most of these places, until a minimum wage increase kicked in at which point I was paid the new minimum (so no, a higher min wage does not lift all wages).

Raises more or less didn't exist at a few places; in most of these places I quit after a year or so without a raise.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:09 AM
 
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Excessive and unnecessary housing regulations harm poor and low skilled workers.

Where are conservatives when I need them?
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/18/op...e.html?hp&_r=0
Raise That Wage
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oh no...not a krugman OPINION
The right-wing knee-jerk comment when the substance is indisputable.

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Question:

Which is worse for business, a $9.00 minimum wage or Obamacare?

I think Obamacare is worse for business than a higher minimum wage.

You could argue that raising the minimum wage on top of Obamacare is piling on, but I don't think the minimum wage is the larger problem.
What makes you conclude that either is bad for business?

In my view, raising the minimum wage to $9.00 would have overwhelmingly positive effects. First, having workers be able to buy the products they make and the services they provide adds to business sales. In addition, the majority of studies indicate that raising the minimum wage does not reduce employment. From a social standpoint, employers should pay the freight of their labor costs. Today, the MW has lagged so far behind that these workers are eligible for Medicaid and Food Stamps, essentially subsidizing the labor costs of companies like WalMart.

Second, ObamaCare isn't bad for business. If providing health insurance for employees was bad for business, employers wouldn't provide it voluntarily. It's actually good for business -- healthy employees that don't avoid treating ailments early, instead of waiting until they are worse, improves employee availability.

Even Republican think the minimum wage should be raised http://nelp.3cdn.net/0be1c6315f2430afa6_arm6bq9wu.pdf

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Old 02-19-2013, 06:30 AM
 
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The right-wing knee-jerk comment when the substance is indisputable.

What makes you conclude that either is bad for business?

In my view, raising the minimum wage to $9.00 would have overwhelmingly positive effects. First, having workers be able to buy the products they make and the services they provide adds to business sales. In addition, the majority of studies indicate that raising the minimum wage does not reduce employment. From a social standpoint, employers should pay the freight of their labor costs. Today, the MW has lagged so far behind that these workers are eligible for Medicaid and Food Stamps, essentially subsidizing the labor costs of companies like WalMart.

Second, ObamaCare isn't bad for business. If providing health insurance for employees was bad for business, employers wouldn't provide it voluntarily. It's actually good for business -- healthy employees that don't avoid treating ailments early, instead of waiting until they are worse, improves employee availability.
They aren't making anything. This is service..cashier, burger flipper, lawn mowing, not manufacturing.
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