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"Nothing we are going to do is fundamentally going to alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to a thousand a year from, from what it is now. There is no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence completely."
Here's what Biden said at the end from the clip:
We have a moral obligation -- a moral obligation to do everything in our power to diminish the prospect that something like this could happen again.
He's correct on both accounts. An AWB and high capacity magazine ban will not eliminate the risk of future mass shootings, or drop the gun death rate from 10,000+ to 1,000... and I don't know one person who believes it will. However, they can reduce the frequency of mass shootings as well as the body count of a mass shooting... which relates to his second quote about diminishing the prospect.
"Nothing we are going to do is fundamentally going to alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to a thousand a year from, from what it is now. There is no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence completely."
Here's what Biden said at the end from the clip:
We have a moral obligation -- a moral obligation to do everything in our power to diminish the prospect that something like this could happen again.
He's correct on both accounts. An AWB and high capacity magazine ban will not eliminate the risk of future mass shootings, or drop the gun death rate from 10,000+ to 1,000... and I don't know one person who believes it will. However, they can reduce the frequency of mass shootings as well as the body count of a mass shooting... which relates to his second quote about diminishing the prospect.
Still doesn't explain why they're going after assault weapons and high capacity magazines when the frequency of mass shootings and the body counts during such events don't even hold a spotlight to handgun deaths, in both respects.
Assault rifles and high-capacity magazines are being focused on because it's low hanging fruit right now, not because the left suddenly wants to save lives. If they did, they'd be going after handguns. But since they know the only way they can get anything done is to manipulate the public's emotional state into achieving their agenda, they have to resort to BS like this.
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Can anyone honestly explain how keeping responsible law abiding people from purchasing semi-auto firearms, (misnamed as assault weapons), and magazines is going to stop criminals and the mentally ill from misusing the firearms.
Statistics / facts not emotional responses only please.
... and that was in December, not counting the 3 shootings since Sandy Hook!
BTW, my own sense is that the irresponsible fanaticism and psychopathic lack of basic human empathy by so many of the gun "enthusiasts" has actually been responsible for the problem.
They're obviously hyper "emotional" about restrictions on their toys, but feelings for our slaughtered kids, not so much....
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"Nothing we are going to do is fundamentally going to alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to a thousand a year from, from what it is now. There is no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence completely."
Here's what Biden said at the end from the clip:
We have a moral obligation -- a moral obligation to do everything in our power to diminish the prospect that something like this could happen again.
He's correct on both accounts. An AWB and high capacity magazine ban will not eliminate the risk of future mass shootings, or drop the gun death rate from 10,000+ to 1,000... and I don't know one person who believes it will. However, they can reduce the frequency of mass shootings as well as the body count of a mass shooting... which relates to his second quote about diminishing the prospect.
Ok, let's employ some logic here. Let's assume that scary black rifles and high capacity magazines are banned. What is going to stop the next nutjob from carrying 10 7-round magazines and hotswapping them instead of carrying 2 high capacity magazines? An AWB and/or high capacity magazine ban isn't going to do diddly to reduce the instances of mass shootings, nor will it reduce the casualties resulting from a mass shooting. If you actually think it will do either, you're drinking too much kool-aid.
... and that was in December, not counting the 3 shootings since Sandy Hook!
Out of curiosity, have you compared the average number of school shootings per year before the Gun Free Zone law was passed with the number of school shootings since the passage of that law? Just to give you a hint, the average doubled after the Gun Free Zone law was passed. Still want to tell us how well gun control works?
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BTW, my own sense is that the irresponsible fanaticism and psychopathic lack of basic human empathy by so many of the gun "enthusiasts" has actually been responsible for the problem.
They're obviously hyper "emotional" about restrictions on their toys, but feelings for our slaughtered kids, not so much....
So, now you're blaming people who exercise their right to defend themselves for the actions of people who commit crime. Didn't take too long for you to fall off the logic plateau, did it?
Having empathy and/or sympathy for the victims of crime doesn't equate to allowing a basic constitutionally protected right to be infringed upon. Especially when the proposed infringement on that right will have little to no effect on the crimes that it is supposed to prevent. It amazes me that after hearing Biden himself discuss how ineffective this legislation would be you are still pushing for it to be enacted.
In the perfect world, we wouldn't need firearms for safety. Unfortunately, as has been shown countless times over the course of history, we don't live in the perfect world. There are people out there who don't have empathy or sympathy for others, and who are willing and sometimes eager to harm others in furtherance of their own desires, whether that desire is to take something that isn't theirs or to get their names in the history books by committing atrocities. Until that basic facet of human behavior changes, I'll keep my firearms, thank you very much.
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