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Old 02-14-2013, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Anti-abortion activists harness states' health policies - Health - Health care | NBC News

At least 21 states have legislation in place or in the works that will stop health insurance companies from paying for abortions for women. Arkansas governor Mike Beebe signed the latest piece on Monday.

The 2010 Affordable Care Act requires states to set up health insurance marketplaces called exchanges by October of this year. Through exchanges, people who don’t have health insurance through the government or an employer can buy health insurance.

States that set up their own exchanges can set the rules for insurers who take part. States that decline to set up exchanges will rely on the federal government to run them.

“Since the health care law was passed, because there is language in the law that says specifically that states can do this, states have taken it up,” says Gretchen Borchelt, who heads state reproductive health policy at the National Women’s Law Center.

 
Old 02-14-2013, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Obamacare gives more power to the government then it would have, had it just been a universal system.
 
Old 02-14-2013, 05:50 AM
 
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Obamacare gives more power to the government then it would have, had it just been a universal system.
Well, in this case it will allow the States to decide whether or not abortion should be covered by insurance, and that is good news for pro-life people such as myself.
 
Old 02-14-2013, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Well, in this case it will allow the States to decide whether or not abortion should be covered by insurance, and that is good news for pro-life people such as myself.
I can buy my own insurance that covers it. My state shouldn't dictate what I can buy. Again, expansion of power beyond what a universal system would have provided.
 
Old 02-14-2013, 06:29 AM
 
Location: texas
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Well, in this case it will allow the States to decide whether or not abortion should be covered by insurance, and that is good news for pro-life people such as myself.
I must admit I did not read the piece, but the point I would like to make is more to your hope that this gives states a way to restrict abortion.

States can write any kind of law they wish; but, as we saw in Arizona, some state laws cannot supercede Federal Law or the Constitution. [That is a general statement.]

More to this point. If the State writes a law restricting a woman's acess to an abortion, and that state recieves Federal Funding for a Health Exchange Health Care Insurance, It most likely will be challenged in court.

Unlike the Catholic Church, which opposed allowing their Insurance carrier to offer birth control medications [to persons employed by companies founded by or affiliated to the church] on religious grounds, the State cant make that same claim.

I believe that is why the State of Texas is not setting up a Health Exchange or accepting Federal money in this case. To be independent of the Federal govenment and its rules and regulations, a state has to choose not to accept federal money.
 
Old 02-14-2013, 06:30 AM
 
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I can buy my own insurance that covers it. My state shouldn't dictate what I can buy. Again, expansion of power beyond what a universal system would have provided.
So, in your opinon giving the authority to the States to decide for themselves means "expansion of government power"? I am not sure how you reach such conclusion.
 
Old 02-14-2013, 06:34 AM
 
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I must admit I did not read the piece, but the point I would like to make is more to your hope that this gives states a way to restrict abortion.

States can write any kind of law they wish; but, as we saw in Arizona, some state laws cannot supercede Federal Law or the Constitution. [That is a general statement.]

More to this point. If the State writes a law restricting a woman's acess to an abortion, and that state recieves Federal Funding for a Health Exchange Health Care Insurance, It most likely will be challenged in court.

Unlike the Catholic Church, which opposed allowing their Insurance carrier to offer birth control medications [to persons employed by companies founded by or affiliated to the church] on religious grounds, the State cant make that same claim.

I believe that is why the State of Texas is not setting up a Health Exchange or accepting Federal money in this case. To be independent of the Federal govenment and its rules and regulations, a state has to choose not to accept federal money.
It's the other way round. If Texas did set it up, they could also decide that they will NOT fund abortion.

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"States that set up their own exchanges can set the rules for insurers who take part. States that decline to set up exchanges will rely on the federal government to run them."

Three states – Kansas, Nebraska and Utah – passed their own legislation almost as soon as the health reform law was signed in 2010. Their laws ban any insurance company that takes part in the health insurance exchanges from paying for abortion. Other states that have since passed similar bans, meaning no woman can get her abortion covered by health insurance, include: Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin
As for Federal money: Federal law already forbids the use of federal funds to pay for abortions.
 
Old 02-14-2013, 06:52 AM
 
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I thought if the states chose to create their own exchange the insurance choices had to be at least as good as what the Federal gov't would provide. So how if the Federal exchanges cover abortion will the states be able to bypass that?
 
Old 02-14-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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I thought if the states chose to create their own exchange the insurance choices had to be at least as good as what the Federal gov't would provide. So how if the Federal exchanges cover abortion will the states be able to bypass that?
Like the article states, those States who set up the exchange can choose to ban funding for abortion.
 
Old 02-14-2013, 07:08 AM
 
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Well, in this case it will allow the States to decide whether or not abortion should be covered by insurance, and that is good news for pro-life people such as myself.
I'm gonna start a movement to convince insurance companies not to cover Viagra. I know it's legal, but who cares? It's against my religious beliefs.
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