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Old 12-21-2016, 02:39 PM
 
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Trick question.

Welfare should not exist at all.

But if it must exist they should be in labor camps.
Especially the elderly that live in nursing homes using Medicaid to pay for the nursing home. In some states, over half of the people in nursing homes are paid via Medicaid.

The nursing home should have a handicap accessible van and wheel those elderly people into the van and take them to the labor camps. If they need to be there all day to work in the labor camp, the nursing home should send extra diapers and a nurse to give them their meds during breaktime from the hard labor.

 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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Big yes.
 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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All for that small government aren't ya?

Pretty solid cognitive dissonance as well ignoring results of States that have tried it
 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Big yes.
You mean like Florida's boondoggle which only had 2% of recipients fail the drug screens? A lot of money for no return, except to Rick Scott's wifes bank account
 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Trick question.

Welfare should not exist at all.

But if it must exist they should be in labor camps.
Wow, if this post isn't creepy, I don't know what is......
 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:48 PM
 
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Every state that has tried this has found it a losing proposition. Most welfare recipients have been found to be clean.
That's only when you are including just those that took and failed the test. For example in a 3 or 4 month span something like 100 failed the test in Florida. 1600 refused the test.
 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:53 PM
 
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Especially the elderly that live in nursing homes using Medicaid to pay for the nursing home. In some states, over half of the people in nursing homes are paid via Medicaid.

The nursing home should have a handicap accessible van and wheel those elderly people into the van and take them to the labor camps. If they need to be there all day to work in the labor camp, the nursing home should send extra diapers and a nurse to give them their meds during breaktime from the hard labor.
A van? Travel to and from?

Aren't we just as lavish as can be?

The home should be the camp so we save on travel expenses. Hell, most of them already depressing enough to be labor camps anyway. Think!
 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:53 PM
 
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Exactly. They spend far more money on testing than they save by kicking the users off public assistance. It only makes sense if you prioritize punishing drug users over saving money.

To reiterate only when are including those that took and failed the test. If I recall correctly when including the 1600 that refused the test Florida saved about $30 for every dollar they spent on testing. That was only over a 3 month period and the savings would have compounded substantially had the program continued because they were ineligible for benefits for something like a year.
 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:53 PM
 
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Why stop with welfare recipients? If we're going to test welfare recipients for drugs, I would also test anyone who has a tax break which is NOT universal.

Since everyone is entitled to the standard deduction and personal exemption, nobody would need to take a drug test to enjoy those tax breaks. But all other tax breaks would trigger a drug test.
 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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Pretty solid cognitive dissonance as well ignoring results of States that have tried it
The results are huge savings.
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