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Old 02-19-2013, 12:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The Unabridged Second Amendment

by J. Neil Schulman
(reprinted with author's permission, see below)

If you wanted to know all about the Big Bang, you'd ring up Carl Sagan, right? And if you wanted to know about desert warfare, the man to call would be Norman Schwarzkopf, no question about it. But who would you call if you wanted the top expert on American usage, to tell you the meaning of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution?

That was the question I asked A.C. Brocki, editorial coordinator of the Los Angeles Unified School District and formerly senior editor at Houghton Mifflin Publishers — who himself had been recommended to me as the foremost expert on English usage in the Los Angeles school system. Mr. Brocki told me to get in touch with Roy Copperud, a retired professor of journalism at the University of Southern California and the author of American Usage and Style: The Consensus.

A little research lent support to Brocki's opinion of Professor Copperud's expertise.

Roy Copperud was a newspaper writer on major dailies for over three decades before embarking on a a distinguished 17-year career teaching journalism at USC. Since 1952, Copperud has been writing a column dealing with the professional aspects of journalism for Editor and Publisher, a weekly magazine focusing on the journalism field.

He's on the usage panel of the American Heritage Dictionary, and Merriam Webster's Usage Dictionary frequently cites him as an expert. Copperud's fifth book on usage, American Usage and Style: The Consensus, has been in continuous print from Van Nostrand Reinhold since 1981, and is the winner of the Association of American Publisher's Humanities Award.

That sounds like an expert to me.

After a brief telephone call to Professor Copperud in which I introduced myself but did not give him any indication of why I was interested, I sent the following letter:

"I am writing you to ask you for your professional opinion as an expert in English usage, to analyze the text of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, and extract the intent from the text.

"The text of the Second Amendment is, 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

"The debate over this amendment has been whether the first part of the sentence, 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State', is a restrictive clause or a subordinate clause, with respect to the independent clause containing the subject of the sentence, 'the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.'

"I would request that your analysis of this sentence not take into consideration issues of political impact or public policy, but be restricted entirely to a linguistic analysis of its meaning and intent. Further, since your professional analysis will likely become part of litigation regarding the consequences of the Second Amendment, I ask that whatever analysis you make be a professional opinion that you would be willing to stand behind with your reputation, and even be willing to testify under oath to support, if necessary."

My letter framed several questions about the test of the Second Amendment, then concluded:

"I realize that I am asking you to take on a major responsibility and task with this letter. I am doing so because, as a citizen, I believe it is vitally important to extract the actual meaning of the Second Amendment. While I ask that your analysis not be affected by the political importance of its results, I ask that you do this because of that importance."

After several more letters and phone calls, in which we discussed terms for his doing such an analysis, but in which we never discussed either of our opinions regarding the Second Amendment, gun control, or any other political subject, Professor Copperud sent me the follow analysis (into which I have inserted my questions for the sake of clarity):

[Copperud:] "The words 'A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,' contrary to the interpretation cited in your letter of July 26, 1991, constitutes a present participle, rather than a clause. It is used as an adjective, modifying 'militia,' which is followed by the main clause of the sentence (subject 'the right', verb 'shall'). The to keep and bear arms is asserted as an essential for maintaining a militia.

"In reply to your numbered questions:

[Schulman:] "(1) Can the sentence be interpreted to grant the right to keep and bear arms solely to 'a well-regulated militia'?"

[Copperud:] "(1) The sentence does not restrict the right to keep and bear arms, nor does it state or imply possession of the right elsewhere or by others than the people; it simply makes a positive statement with respect to a right of the people."

[Schulman:] "(2) Is 'the right of the people to keep and bear arms' granted by the words of the Second Amendment, or does the Second Amendment assume a preexisting right of the people to keep and bear arms, and merely state that such right 'shall not be infringed'?"

[Copperud:] "(2) The right is not granted by the amendment; its existence is assumed. The thrust of the sentence is that the right shall be preserved inviolate for the sake of ensuring a militia."

[Schulman:] "(3) Is the right of the people to keep and bear arms conditioned upon whether or not a well regulated militia, is, in fact necessary to the security of a free State, and if that condition is not existing, is the statement 'the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed' null and void?"

[Copperud:] "(3) No such condition is expressed or implied. The right to keep and bear arms is not said by the amendment to depend on the existence of a militia. No condition is stated or implied as to the relation of the right to keep and bear arms and to the necessity of a well-regulated militia as a requisite to the security of a free state. The right to keep and bear arms is deemed unconditional by the entire sentence."

[Schulman:] "(4) Does the clause 'A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,' grant a right to the government to place conditions on the 'right of the people to keep and bear arms,' or is such right deemed unconditional by the meaning of the entire sentence?"

[Copperud:] "(4) The right is assumed to exist and to be unconditional, as previously stated. It is invoked here specifically for the sake of the militia."

[Schulman:] "(5) Which of the following does the phrase 'well-regulated militia' mean: 'well-equipped', 'well-organized,' 'well-drilled,' 'well-educated,' or 'subject to regulations of a superior authority'?"

[Copperud:] "(5) The phrase means 'subject to regulations of a superior authority;' this accords with the desire of the writers for civilian control over the military."

[Schulman:] "(6) (If at all possible, I would ask you to take account the changed meanings of words, or usage, since that sentence was written 200 years ago, but not take into account historical interpretations of the intents of the authors, unless those issues can be clearly separated."

[Copperud:] "To the best of my knowledge, there has been no change in the meaning of words or in usage that would affect the meaning of the amendment. If it were written today, it might be put: "Since a well-regulated militia is necessary tot he security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged.'

[Schulman:] "As a 'scientific control' on this analysis, I would also appreciate it if you could compare your analysis of the text of the Second Amendment to the following sentence,
"A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed.'

"My questions for the usage analysis of this sentence would be,

"(1) Is the grammatical structure and usage of this sentence and the way the words modify each other, identical to the Second Amendment's sentence?; and

"(2) Could this sentence be interpreted to restrict 'the right of the people to keep and read Books' only to 'a well-educated electorate' — for example, registered voters with a high-school diploma?"

[Copperud:] "(1) Your 'scientific control' sentence precisely parallels the amendment in grammatical structure.

"(2) There is nothing in your sentence that either indicates or implies the possibility of a restricted interpretation."

Professor Copperud had only one additional comment, which he placed in his cover letter: "With well-known human curiosity, I made some speculative efforts to decide how the material might be used, but was unable to reach any conclusion."

So now we have been told by one of the top experts on American usage what many knew all along: the Constitution of the United States unconditionally protects the people's right to keep and bear arms, forbidding all governments formed under the Constitution from abridging that right.

As I write this, the attempted coup against constitutional government in the Soviet Union has failed, apparently because the will of the people in that part of the world to be free from capricious tyranny is stronger than the old guard's desire to maintain a monopoly on dictatorial power.

And here in the United States, elected lawmakers, judges, and appointed officials who are pledged to defend the Constitution of the United States ignore, marginalize, or prevaricate about the Second Amendment routinely. American citizens are put in American prisons for carrying arms, owning arms of forbidden sorts, or failing to satisfy bureaucratic requirements regarding the owning and carrying of firearms — all of which is an abridgement of the unconditional right of the people to keep and bear arms, guaranteed by the Constitution.
And even the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), staunch defender of the rest of the Bill of Rights, stands by and does nothing.

It seems it is up to those who believe in the right to keep and bear arms to preserve that right. No one else will. No one else can. Will we beg our elected representatives not to take away our rights, and continue regarding them as representing us if they do? Will we continue obeying judges who decide that the Second Amendment doesn't mean what it says it means but means whatever they say it means in their Orwellian doublespeak?

Or will be simply keep and bear the arms of our choice, as the Constitution of the United States promises us we can, and pledge that we will defend that promise with our lives, our fortuned, and our sacred honor?

(C) 1991 by The New Gun Week and Second Amendment Foundation. Informational reproduction of the entire article is hereby authorized provided the author, The New Gun Week and Second Amendment Foundation are credited. All other rights reserved.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:55 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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GUNS have one purpose and that is to either mame, injure or kill.
Wrong - you forgot that they are used to defend life and liberty.

You forgot that they are used for recreational purposes.

You forgot that they are used to hunt game.

I could go on, but I have made my point - that you are being extremely short sighted.
He didn't forget.

He's been told that time and again, and has never been able to refute it. Unsurprisingly, since it's merely true.

He's simply lying, and hoping that nobody calls him on it.

A not unexpected tactic, from the kind of person who can't even spell "maim".
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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Wrong.

"Regulate Commerce" carried the same meaning then, as it does today.
Once more time, the phrase Well Regulated" is different from the verb Regulate. Get a clue, read history, the words, written and spoken, of the Founders, the predations by the likes of Stalin and Mao upon an unarmed citizenry and then, do some gonkulating and see if you can see what the Founders saw and meant. If not, well, give up!!!
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:10 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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We have cars, and people get in automobile accidents.
We have electricity and people get electrocuted.
We have swimming pools and people drown.
The design of cars is constantly being changed to make them safer. A license is required to drive one. Seatbelts must be worn to increase safety. Yes, people get in accidents, but we EXPECT automakers to design and manufacture their product so that risk of injuries and deaths is reduced.

Electricians have regulations to follow so that the public is as safe as possible.

Many neighborhoods and towns require locked fencing around swimming pools to prevent drowning.

In all of your examples (except guns) we have laws and regulations to minimize the risks.

I'm not even saying that I am for gun control or limits on rounds or bans on "assault weapons" or anything else. I'm just saying that your "logic" wasn't compelling for me.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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The design of cars is constantly being changed to make them safer. A license is required to drive one. Seatbelts must be worn to increase safety. Yes, people get in accidents, but we EXPECT automakers to design and manufacture their product so that risk of injuries and deaths is reduced.

Electricians have regulations to follow so that the public is as safe as possible.

Many neighborhoods and towns require locked fencing around swimming pools to prevent drowning.

In all of your examples (except guns) we have laws and regulations to minimize the risks.

I'm not even saying that I am for gun control or limits on rounds or bans on "assault weapons" or anything else. I'm just saying that your "logic" wasn't compelling for me.
So it is your 'opinion" that there are no regulations on guns, gun safety, etc?

Your post appears to be a product of the ultimate Low-Information voter.

FYI, the regulations on guns, gun ownership, gun usage, construction, carrying and deployment are legion. - Federal, State and Local.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.
Precisely. And the amazing thing is that those who oppose this foundational right are slitting their own civic throats,, by advocating the removal of their most foundational right. Perhaps they would be better served denying themselves the right of speech or "press", because whenever they open their mouths or fingers-upon-keyboard, they make fools fo themselves on their way to self-sentenced servitude.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Precisely. And the amazing thing is that those who oppose this foundational right are slitting their own civic throats,, by advocating the removal of their most foundational right. Perhaps they would be better served denying themselves the right of speech or "press", because whenever they open their mouths or fingers-upon-keyboard, they make fools fo themselves on their way to self-sentenced servitude.
Q: Why does the Constitution have a second amendment?

A: In case the government doesn't obey the first one.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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Q: Why does the Constitution have a second amendment?

A: In case the government doesn't obey the first one.
Guns are, like, prunes.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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I don't want to take your guns... I swear. I do want large clips to be limited and mandatory background checks to be expanded.

Since the second amendment uses the words "well regulated", and regulation has before been affirmed by the Supreme Court-- How can anyone claim that it would be unconstitutional to limit large clips and institute mandator background checks?
You forgot to mention a keyword in the phrase - "A Well Regulated Militia", which does not refer to guns. Then you have "The People's Right To Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed", so that should negate any implications that guns should be regulated. A well-regulated militia - Are all law-abiding gun owners, and we already have plenty of regulations that supposedly keep guns out of the hands of those who should not have them, but they find ways to get them illegally.
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