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The first two deal strictly with revenue and the last one is not being promoted by the Dems or Obama. I am happy to read them if I have missed them.
All the same we can not address the 17 trillion with businesses when that is nowhere near where most of the shortfall is coming from.
No one is saying this one thing would solve all problems. I offered it as an example of something both sides have proposed, and would have a good chance of passing. If politicians insist on fighting fights they know they cannot win, then then its a losing game, and they are simply wasting everyones time. The politicians do not have the best of the nation in their minds, they only care about trying to score points for next elections.
So, you're basically celebrating intentional lies from the President as well as pervasive ignorance in the general public......all for political gain?
I expect nothing less from an Obama voter. Trust me.
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Yep he is a political genius who never takes any responsibility for anything he does,But being politically a genius does not make it any less of a lie to blame republicans for things his team proposed
I guess when you're getting your ass kicked, all you have left is the whining.
He is politically shredding the Republicans, and "political gain" here actually means accomplishing exactly what the American people elected him to accomplish. Never before has the Republican party looked more confused, impotent and irrelevant. And yes, suck it up. They've already gotten the blame.
Hear that? It's the death rattle of a political party.
No one is saying this one thing would solve all problems. I offered it as an example of something both sides have proposed, and would have a good chance of passing. If politicians insist on fighting fights they know they cannot win, then then its a losing game, and they are simply wasting everyones time. The politicians do not have the best of the nation in their minds, they only care about trying to score points for next elections.
I'll note that you didn't provide any of these cuts you say are being proposed.
Now if you are saying that this is the venue you think we should pursue, it won't come anywhere close to addressing our problem. The military and entitlements have to be cut.
I'll note that you didn't provide any of these cuts you say are being proposed.
Now if you are saying that this is the venue you think we should pursue, it won't come anywhere close to addressing our problem. The military and entitlements have to be cut.
I don't want to repeat what I just said. Could you read my post again, specifically the part where I said it would not solve all problems, and it is just one an example of an idea which would have high probability of passing because both parties have supported it.
I don't want to repeat what I just said. Could you read my post again, specifically the part where I said it would not solve all problems, and it is just one an example of an idea which would have high probability of passing because both parties have supported it.
Thanking a war hero would have a high probability of passing also but it doesn't address our problem.
As I said the tax code is another issue. It may be somewhat related but we are talking about our debt and the sequester. Your points are things I may even agree with but they are not things that are going to stop the sequester.
The government has also had a year to agree on these things and haven't.
Republicans spent all their time pushing for these cuts and now that they're happening they're trying to pretend as if it had nothing to do with them. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.
It's pretty clear they're still trying to crash the economy but are desperately afraid of the political blow back from their actions.
Thanking a war hero would have a high probability of passing also but it doesn't address our problem.
As I said the tax code is another issue. It may be somewhat related but we are talking about our debt and the sequester. Your points are things I may even agree with but they are not things that are going to stop the sequester.
The government has also had a year to agree on these things and haven't.
There is no one silver bullet to fix all problems, but the removal of deductions, loopholes and subsidies is exactly the kind of thing they should be looking at. Subsidies eat up a lot of cash. BILLIONS. You seem to disagree for the sake of disagreeing, which of course is also the root cause of the gridlock in Congress too.
It's a game of chess. Republicans need to think of a counter move. There are many proposals which both parties seem to like, and the GOP just need to swallow their pride and agree with them. Think about removing corporate loopholes and subsidies for example. Why would they not agree with that, when they have made the same proposal themselves?
Yes the house passed two proposals to avoid the sequester senate would not take them up. The sequester was Obama team baby,Now politically he has the power of the MSM who will accept his lies and blame the republicans. Politically he has more Teflon on him then Reagan .It still does not make him anything but a liar who takes no responsibility for his own actions and tries to blame everyone else for his mess. Sice you will not name what loopholes you wish to cut i can not say if i agree or disagree
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