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Old 02-22-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Jawjah
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Researchers combed through data available from the 15 states that publicly post all requests for rate increases in the individual market. They found that, in 2009, 74 percent of all requests came in above 10 percent. By 2012, that number had fallen to 35 percent. Preliminary data for 2013, which only cover a handful of states, shows 14 percent of rate increases asking for a double-digit bump.


Ofcourse conservatives just want the "Let him die!" health care scenario to materialize..

Big health insurance rate hikes are plummeting
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:32 AM
 
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Let them die? Yeah, why not? How long do you intend to shoulder the costs of the terminally ill before realizing that 10 extra prescriptions or an 10 extra doctor visits couldn't keep them alive anyway?

For those who simply need a band-aid or an aspirin, how many trips to the Emergency Room do you think they deserve before you finally say "enough is enough!"?

Liberal Utopia does not exist. The sooner you folks figure that out, the better off America will be.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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"rate hikes plummeting"

Does that mean the same thing as "we're cutting proposed government spending HIKES, so that means we're cutting government spending, even though government spending is going up? I mean, we're spending less of more, right?"
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:41 AM
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insurance rate hikes plummeting

hahahaha good post for the double speak thread that was on here
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: NC
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the numbers do not back up your claims..... also don't be so fricking blatantly partisan


hack thread

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Old 02-22-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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The number of double-digit rate increases requested by health insurers has plummeted over the past four years, according to a Friday report from the Obama administration.

A report from the Obama administration? Really?

Two new independent studies of health insurance premiums and health care spending indicate both are rising at an accelerated pace, despite President Obama’s 2008 promise to contain those costs and his pledge that his health care legislation would reduce premiums.

Rising Health Costs Undermine Obama Pledge to Curb Trend - ABC News
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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"rate hikes plummeting"

Does that mean the same thing as "we're cutting proposed government spending HIKES, so that means we're cutting government spending, even though government spending is going up? I mean, we're spending less of more, right?"

No, it doesn't. Insurance rates and government spending are two different issues.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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Gee, two links to "studies prove" that show contrary results ~ ~ imagine that!
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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Researchers combed through data available from the 15 states that publicly post all requests for rate increases in the individual market. They found that, in 2009, 74 percent of all requests came in above 10 percent. By 2012, that number had fallen to 35 percent. Preliminary data for 2013, which only cover a handful of states, shows 14 percent of rate increases asking for a double-digit bump.


Ofcourse conservatives just want the "Let him die!" health care scenario to materialize..

Big health insurance rate hikes are plummeting
As someone that actually has made rate filings at their job, let me explain.

Companies want to avoid a double digit increase and the additional regulatory muck at all costs.

So, what they are doing is instead of filing for say....15% every 2 years....they are making sure to file for <10% but more frequently.

What you are seeing isn't proof of rate decreases or cost savings but rather people at insurance companies managing the regulations involved.

Isn't to say there aren't savings, just pointing out that the study is garbage and proves nothing. Just political grandstanding.

I must say that it's pretty scummy to put out a study that flawed and claim victory.

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Old 02-22-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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No, it doesn't. Insurance rates and government spending are two different issues.

Two examples of doublespeak and spin.

And if you don't see that insurance rates and the government involvement in healthcare are intertwined, then I really can't help you.
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