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Old 02-22-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Robin Rossi View Post
Not paying taxes, like everyone else. I thought that was perfectly clear.
You said those earners are freeloaders. A "freeloader" is the opposite of an "earner", because earners earn their money, while freeloaders do not. Get it?
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You said : I prefer the Fair Tax aka Consumption Tax proposal.

Rent is taxed under the FairTax.
That would depend on how such Fair Tax tax code was written, and since we do not have such system today your claim is incorrect.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:32 AM
 
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That would depend on how such Fair Tax tax code was written, and since we do not have such system today your claim is incorrect.

The FairTax proposal currently in the House does tax rent.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Not paying taxes, like everyone else. I thought that was perfectly clear.
Oh, like freeloaders like Facebook, which made $1 billion in U.S. profit before taxes last year, will pay no U.S. income tax for 2012.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:36 AM
 
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Your sensational and emotional responses aren't going to change the fact that one percentage for all is fair.
Actually, it's not.

A flat percentage taken on income after reasonable living expenses are deducted from that income could be considered fair. But failing to recognize that some people's income isn't adequate to basic living expenses, and then taking more of their income away is unfair.

Spare me your sensational and emotional responses of they should get another job. First, there aren't enough jobs as it is, and secondly, expecting the poor to work 80 hrs a week so they can pay taxes is illogical. We don't work to pay taxes, we work to provide ourselves with food, shelter and clothing.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Actually, it's not.

A flat percentage taken on income after reasonable living expenses are deducted from that income could be considered fair. But failing to recognize that some people's income isn't adequate to basic living expenses, and then taking more of their income away is unfair.

Spare me your sensational and emotional responses of they should get another job. First, there aren't enough jobs as it is, and secondly, expecting the poor to work 80 hrs a week so they can pay taxes is illogical. We don't work to pay taxes, we work to provide ourselves with food, shelter and clothing.
Those "free loaders" don't pay income taxes because of Reagan's Earned Income Credit, that he called at the time “the most important anti-poverty measure enacted over the past decade” and fought for it so that the working poor would have an incentive to work.

Today's GOP doesn't believe in what Reagan believed and the only people who need incentives are the rich.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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YES! As long as reasonable setback requirements are met.

e.g. a 2,500 sf lot could theoretically have a 20' x 20' house with 15' of setback on all sides; 15' is plenty of setback and usually more than is required.
No doubt there is somewhere where that can be done - perhaps not in a nice area.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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Oh, like freeloaders like [URL="http://money.cnn.com/2013/02/22/technology/social/facebook-income-tax/index.html?iid=HP_LN"]Facebook, which made $1 billion in U.S. profit before taxes last year, will pay no U.S. income tax for 2012.[/URL]
Yes there to.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The FairTax proposal currently in the House does tax rent.
Really? Which bill is that? I didn't know they were debating Fair Tax
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
No they aren't and since they aren't I didn't read further.
too bad...you might have learned something

yes a good portion of american workers are avoiding taxes by working off the books (under the table)
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