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That's exactly right. Obama has done absolutly nothing to infringe on 2nd amendment rights. Has hasn't done anything before, and he's not going to do anything now.
Wouldn't you already be in a registry/file if you purchased a gun in the past from a licensed dealer?
Good question? I am of the understanding that a background check is only kept on file for a certain period of time and after that ATF can only keep a record that the individual passed the check itself with no other information about the person or firearm. I believe the NRA is concerned that any new background check regulations will curtail the requirement of ATF to destroy certain information about the individual and the firearm after a certain amount of time. I'll have to do more research on the current ATF regs.
Edit: I believe this mostly answers my own question re: ATF Record Destruction Requirements.
Section 103(i) next, in its second paragraph, provides that the Government may not “use [the NICS] to establish any system for the registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions or dispositions, except with respect to persons prohibited . . . from receiving a firearm.”
Good question? I am of the understanding that a background check is only kept on file for a certain period of time and after that ATF can only keep a record that the individual passed the check itself with no other information about the person or firearm. I believe the NRA is concerned that any new background check regulations will curtail the requirement of ATF to destroy certain information about the individual and the firearm after a certain amount of time. I'll have to do more research on the current ATF regs.
Good idea. Are you say that a certified nut can get turned down and wait X amount of time and then reapply like he had never been turned down before? That is not good if true.
The NRA is more a lobbyist for gun makers than for gun owners. They just feed gun owners a line of thinking that many of them regurgitiate without even contemplating in order to help pad the profits of gun manufactures.
Since those would be good paying jobs they are then doing us all a favor.
Good question? I am of the understanding that a background check is only kept on file for a certain period of time and after that ATF can only keep a record that the individual passed the check itself with no other information about the person or firearm. I believe the NRA is concerned that any new background check regulations will curtail the requirement of ATF to destroy certain information about the individual and the firearm after a certain amount of time. I'll have to do more research on the current ATF regs.
Edit: I believe this mostly answers my own question re: ATF Record Destruction Requirements.
When the background check is processed, the gun dealer is given the yes or no to go ahead and sell the gun, after that, the info must be destroyed by law. The only info that is kept on file is how many background checks were done, but nothing on by whom.
Good idea. Are you say that a certified nut can get turned down and wait X amount of time and then reapply like he had never been turned down before? That is not good if true.
I don't know if there is any kind of crime for keeping to try to get a gun, but if they are already on the "no go" list, they will just keep getting rejected over and over. However with the "gun show loophole" a gang banger or delusional nutcase can walk up to a private seller at a gun show or in a classifieds ad, and buy guns with no background check and no questions asked.
Good question? I am of the understanding that a background check is only kept on file for a certain period of time and after that ATF can only keep a record that the individual passed the check itself with no other information about the person or firearm. I believe the NRA is concerned that any new background check regulations will curtail the requirement of ATF to destroy certain information about the individual and the firearm after a certain amount of time. I'll have to do more research on the current ATF regs.
Edit: I believe this mostly answers my own question re: ATF Record Destruction Requirements.
This is the hang up right now with the current attempt to expand back ground checks. It seems both sides are agreeing to expand back ground checks but the Dems are insisting on making the lists a part of the government record and the R's are against that.
We likely would have had an agreement by now (for good or bad) if not for the insistence of the Dems to turn it into a registration.
It's all moot anyway as few if any are going to ask those they sell a gun to, to undergo a background check.
I was an NRA member until i saw them telling lies and another twisted one is coming out if not already out there. I own a few guns and always have and come from a strong farm background. As i have said before we need more gun owner responsibility and new technology on new guns and more time and money spent on Mental Health. I am for background checks.. I am against banning any gun at all
But the NRA has posted the memo on one of its websites and cites it in advertising aimed at whipping up opposition to Obama's efforts to contain gun violence. The ad says the paper shows that the administration "believes that a gun ban will not work without mandatory gun confiscation" and thinks universal background checks "won't work without requiring national gun registration" - ideas the president has not proposed or expressed support for.
You saying your a gun owner is a lie to make you look reasonable. If you even ever were an NRA member which I highly doubt, you were only trying to use it to make yourself look like a gun owner. You are not a gun rights supporter. Your a anti gun person who says they shoot to make them-self look like a gun owner.
We have a background check when buying from a dealer. No difference!
Not in every state. The NICS office in DC is not called when a person in Mississippi shows his or her concealed carry permit. My 4473 stays with the FFL seller.
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He Won't admit it but i think he voted Obama.
