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Old 12-05-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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Ye, I remember it well...Manson tried to give equal rights to gays and affordable healthcare to the masses. He also made certain that women received equal pay for equal work and then he killed Osama bin laden. Anymore brilliant comparisons?
False. Male Obama campaign staffers were paid on average of 25% higher than female staffers.


Obama is a lying fraud. Look at his actions, not his words or forever be a "useful idiot" to his destructive agenda.
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Who cares, get over it, move on.
You say that, but if it was a GOP president behaving the exact same way the left would be squealing like pigs about to be slaughtered.
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Pa
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My point is...they follow him for all the wrong doings. why don't you post all the failures and wrong doings Obama has succeeded in? I guess it out ways the good,which is good in your eyes.first of all, Bush started the ball rolling after 911 which led to the death of Bin laden...and no! Obama didn't kill him,the Navy Seals did. lets not get started on the big health care failure. Gays!!! is that the most important issue in this country? Your not convincing at all!
You make a valid point. Obama followers will lie and defend the great one no matter what his sin. To admit that he is less than what they have praised him to be is to admit that they were following a false idol. They will never admit it. Party first and always no matter what. Hard liners from both sides are exactly the same.
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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It isn't over. Most Americans do not want to pay more for a corrupt/inferior healthcare system.

If the GOP had a brain, ObamaCare would be the ONLY thing the GOP campaigns on from now until the midterm election bloodbath where the Democrats lose the Senate and scores of house seats.

ObamaCare is the worst govt. abuse since prohibition. It will be repelled. The question will be whether or not the Democrat Party dies trying to save this evil/destructive legislation. If the Democrats weren't dominated by fascist extremists, it would have been repealed months ago.
Uh......dude.........the ACA is not about healthcare. It never was about healthcare.
It's about making HEATH INSURANCE available to a larger segment of our society.
That's.....uh......Private Health Insurance from private corporations. Like BCBS, Kaiser, Cigna, Humana, etc.
The government has nothing to do with the policies or the health care the recipients receive from their ACA private insurance policies issued by established, PRIVATE corporate insurance companies.

Study up a bit and get back to us.
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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Uh......dude.........the ACA is not about healthcare. It never was about healthcare.
It's about making HEATH INSURANCE available to a larger segment of our society.
Then it has massively failed as more people will lose their current insurance than there were that needed it prior to this massively failed legislation..

The dishonestly named ACA isn't about healthcare, it is about control.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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Then it has massively failed as more people will lose their current insurance than there were that needed it prior to this massively failed legislation..

The dishonestly named ACA isn't about healthcare, it is about control.
It was by design that people would lose their insurance.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Then it has massively failed as more people will lose their current insurance than there were that needed it prior to this massively failed legislation..

The dishonestly named ACA isn't about healthcare, it is about control.
Are you projecting that result based on actuary tables or just a bare-assed hunch.
I project that every one of those people who had their policy canceled will receive a new one and most of those policies will cost less and provide much better coverage.
I predict that the ACA will be a resounding success just like Bush's part D medicare and Romneycare in Mass.
Which one of us is right?

We'll see.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It was by design that people would lose their insurance.
Yes it was.
You forgot to mention that those policies are being replaced with policies that actually protect and cover the insured.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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Are you projecting that result based on actuary tables or just a bare-assed hunch.
Current trends. The dishonestly named ACA is a greatly flawed legislation that is doing enormous harm. For example in my home state none of the two providers available in my home county has access to the area's top hospitals. Less choice, more costs, less access, less quality.

This destructive legislation should be repelled. If the goal is to make insurance more available, the Democrats should have passed health insurance freedom allowing policies to be sold across state lines. Now plans can't even go across county lines.

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I predict that the ACA will be a resounding success just like Bush's part D medicare and Romneycare in Mass.
Which one of us is right?
All three = failures. Higher costs, less choice does not result in improved healthcare. The dishonestly named ACA is actually accelerating the worst trends in insurance and healthcare. It is why the Democrat Party is about to get "whiged" unless they change course quickly.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:25 PM
 
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Yes it was.
You forgot to mention that those policies are being replaced with policies that actually protect and cover the insured.
False. Less protection and control than ever for patients as bureaucrats and govt. regulation will decide their access and treatment, not they and their doctor.


The dishonestly named ACA takes away control from doctor and patient. Again, the ACA is not about healthcare, it is about control. Look at the IRS. Look at the Democrats effort to restore military conscription. The Democrats want to abuse healthcare and the draft against political rivals just as they are abusing the IRS to attack political and ideological rivals.
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