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Old 10-24-2007, 09:52 AM
 
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If your friends don't have enough money for chemo, maybe you should consider a second job or a higher paying job to allow you to afford Catastrophic Health insurance. Isn't this a reasonable solution?

Maybe you missed this part of my first post:
Get a higher paying job, you say? Kiss my ass, say I. Telling someone that they don't make enough money to matter is the very thing wrong our society...

 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:53 AM
 
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Maybe you missed this part of my first post:
Get a higher paying job, you say? Kiss my ass, say I. Telling someone that they don't make enough money to matter is the very thing wrong our society...
Those who aren't willing to provide for themselves shouldn't be subsidized by those who are.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:53 AM
 
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Or the ambitious and responsible.
By that logic, isn't it immoral for Bush to use my money to fund his wars? If he wants to go to war in Iraq, rather than stealing for me, why doesn't he find a way to make a trillion bucks in the private sector?

Really, where does this line of thinking end?
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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Ok here's my take on it...

The OP is being hypocritcal in the fact that he is lumping everybody but the poor into one lump by saying "we" say "they" are just a bunch of lazy pigs.

This is as true as saying all of "them" have real ligitimate reasons for being in the situation they are in.

Excluding the mentally and physically ill.......

When I am in a store standing in the check out behind someone who has the following:
Cell phone
fancy hair do's or coloring
fancy nails
and designer clothes
1st rate cuts of meats
Pre-cooked meals
Name brand cereals
Name brand juices
Seafood
Beer and cigarettes
(you get the point)

And they pay with EBT(food stamps)
I get more than a little annoyed.

I then look in my cart and I have only the basics so I can make my meals from scratch because it's cheaper that way.
Most products are the store brand and the cheapest cut of meat I can find.
No beer and no cigarettes.

Then I see the "single" moms with 5 kids hanging around and the mom is crying broke while the whole time living with the daddy who drives around in a car with rims that cost more than I bring home a month(but he's poor and it's up to US to support him).

I see people living in run down shacks collecting what's "due" them from the government but sure has $$ to buy beer/wine, cigs and drugs.

I see people that blow off school but it's more cool to be a dropout they cry about "the man" when they can't get a job.

These are the type of people I for one am tired of supporting.

If I lost my job tomorrow, I wouldn't worry about it because I'm not too good to go flip hamburgers or sweep a floor. I work hard for what I have and think others should too.

If this makes me a selfish person then so be it.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:56 AM
 
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By that logic, isn't it immoral for Bush to use my money to fund his wars? If he wants to go to war in Iraq, rather than stealing for me, why doesn't he find a way to make a trillion bucks in the private sector?

Really, where does this line of thinking end?
Bush is providing what he considers a service to the country by protecting it from terrorists, whether you agree with it or not. BTW, it's illegal to participate in a proxy war funded by private individuals or groups.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Keep it clean and without personal attacks, or I'll have to use Clorox.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 10:00 AM
 
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Bush is providing what he considers a service to the country by protecting it from terrorists, whether you agree with it or not.
That's how health care would work. Enough people would consider it a 'common good' that would defend the health of the nation, and that would be that.

And it's going to happen, make no doubt. You might as well get used to it.

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BTW, it's illegal to participate in a proxy war funded by private individuals or groups.
Since when it is illegal for an individual to voluntarily pay more in tax than is required? All Bush has to do is make a trillion bucks, send it to the IRS, and only request from Congress war funding that is at or below the amount he overpaid in taxes. He should do that, rather than steal from me like some sort of communist, right?
 
Old 10-24-2007, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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It's not as black and white as that though...nothing is black and white. You can't just sit there and write millions of people off as lazy, which is basically what you're doing.
Being poor is not proof that one is lazy, but let's just admit the other obvious truth, which is that lazy people don't very often get rich.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 10:15 AM
 
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But many people born rich are lazy.
 
Old 10-24-2007, 10:28 AM
 
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Good one, fish, and I could name a few, but it would take us off topic.



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But many people born rich are lazy.
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