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Old 03-01-2013, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I've always thought the polarization we suffer from nowadays was the result of the great uninformed. I'm no expert, but most of the vocal extreme right or left folks I run into in the everyday world, seem to hold to a skin deep ideology. IOW, they voice an extreme position, but when they're challenged with facts, the can't even begin to back up their statement with any substance. They seem to want the listener to just think their views are self-evident, and that probably works among all the other uninformed. From that I assume they are just parroting the views of some like-minded source (family, friends, media) without really having thought it through at all. I call that uninformed, and I have seen it just as clearly from conservatives and liberals alike BTW.

But I read a thoughtful article a few days ago saying just the opposite (I wish I could find it again!). That with all the media niches these days, it's the informed minority that drives polarization. The right and the left are now able to find far more (selective) facts these days to "support" their views because they have clearly defined access to so many likeminded people. Unfortunately, most never even listen to our consider the views of the other side.

It is clear that the political and media leaders of the extreme right are mostly informed, though they deliberately air only the facts that support their POVs.

I don't think the problem is lying in particular, though that happens too. What I find is both sides cling to only those facts that support their position, often conveniently ignoring the big picture, and refusing to listen to each other.

The largest part of the population is the apathetic middle, mostly uniformed by definition. Even though the middle is the majority, they are quiet. So we're left with a loud minority with strongly held right or left of center views to dominate the national discussion, from dinner tables to the halls of Congress.

So where does polarization come from, mostly uninformed, or informed? I'm not sure anymore...
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Uninformed. Uneducated.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Misinformed, coupled with stupidity.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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There are two sides to every coin, only a fool would deny this.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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Misinformed coupled with emotional conviction to a given ideology.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Uninformed. The notion that world is black and white, good vs. evil, and people can be categorized as such, is not supported by history or even a cursory bit of world experience.

Having traveled around the world, I'd say we are far more alike than different, regardless or color, religion, and political ideology. Ask anyone else who has done the same, and you will likely get a similar answer.

Folks who actually seek the truth tend to become moderates. Hardcore partisans tend to filter the truth through their beliefs, perpetuating ignorance.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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So where does polarization come from, mostly uninformed, or informed? I'm not sure anymore...
I think it's laziness... instead of doing the research, going out and seeing for themselves, people go to their "source" of information, and accept what they are being told without investigating. It's kinda like all those chain emails that go around both in email and now on social networks. No one bothers to google these things before reposting/resending them out, so it keeps getting passed around as "truth". Some of it is half true, others are balled faced lies.. but few people take the two minutes to research and find out for sure! And the more they see these incorrect things, the more they think it's true... even when it's just other people being lazy about their facts spouting the same lie/half truth! It's frustrating to say the least!
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:24 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Uninformed with a sports game mentality (win at any cost)
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Uninformed. Uneducated.
i disagree with uniformed, more like misinformed. most people get their information from a few sources, and those are generally limited to those sources that the person in question follows because they tend to mirror that persons ideology. uneducated on the other hand is closer to the truth. most people are lazy enough that they will listen to a few sources, but wont take the time to check out what the sources they listen to for accuracy, or for information that might contradict what they are being told.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:28 AM
 
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i think what you see is people's views reflecting what they persoanlly think having listened to more varied sources than ever before. But like always its results vary dependig on their personal situation and realtionship to the subject. Journlism has always had close relation ship to politcal factions as they need sources and those are most often related to the goals of those poltrically connected sources.All one can do is rad and makeup ones own moind as realted to personal experiences as always.
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