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Old 03-01-2013, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you think section 5 of the Act in place since the 1970's has run it's course. It requires a good deal
of effort and funding to change voting laws in several southern states.

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The subject was the Voting Rights Act, one of the most successful pieces of civil rights legislation in U.S. history, and in particular its Section 5. That provision requires nine states and assorted jurisdictions in seven others to win Justice Department approval before changing their voting laws. The burden is on these “covered” jurisdictions, unlike the rest of the country, to prove that such changes won’t adversely affect the right of African Americans and other minorities to vote. Shelby County, Ala., was in court Wednesday arguing that this pre-clearance requirement is an unfair infringement on Alabama’s sovereignty.
Justice Scalia’s contempt of Congress - The Washington Post
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:59 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Do you think section 5 of the Act in place since the 1970's has run it's course. It requires a good deal
of effort and funding to change voting laws in several southern states.



Justice Scalia’s contempt of Congress - The Washington Post
I think section 5 should and will be overturned, 5-4, outside chance at 6-3
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I think section 5 should and will be overturned, 5-4, outside chance at 6-3
Seems like there have been more abuses against voters in the past year from states like Ohio and PA, not covered by section 5 .
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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With Alabama's abysmal voting rights This will hopefully be continued. I could care less about their sovereignty. I do care about everyone having an equal opportunity to vote.

Now we need to overturn these vote id laws and the other attempots of the right to limit the votes that the right has no chance of getting.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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With Alabama's abysmal voting rights This will hopefully be continued. I could care less about their sovereignty. I do care about everyone having an equal opportunity to vote.

Now we need to overturn these vote id laws and the other attempots of the right to limit the votes that the right has no chance of getting.
In the last 20 years what has Alabama done that suppresses black voting? Are you just as concerned with Massachusetts having the lowest black turnout per capita than any other state?

ETA - here is the Census info for the 08 election (12 not available). This exerpts says black voting rate per capita in the south is higher than anywhere in the nation. And that the north east and west has the lowest turn out rate.

"When race and ethnicity are considered alongside region of residence, voting rates for Blacks are shown to have increased in the South. All other regions showed no statistical change for Black voters between 2004 and 2008"
http://www.census.gov/prod/2010pubs/p20-562.pdf

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Old 03-01-2013, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think as long as there are still people alive that lived through the Civil Rights movement, the laws that came from all that should stay on the books.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:39 PM
 
Location: texas
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doing away with section 5 still allows persons to bring VRA claims against the states under section 5 for precieved violations.

keep it...scrape it
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:55 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Do you think section 5 of the Act in place since the 1970's has run it's course.
No, but I do think all states should be subject to it.
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Old 03-01-2013, 08:57 PM
 
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No, but I do think all states should be subject to it.
So you want to violate states rights and the constitution even though blacks are voting at a greater rate per capita than whites?
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, but I do think all states should be subject to it.
I do agree with this, I think it is important to have checks and balances in place to make sure states aren't violating voter rights.
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