Should California Secede from the US? (Congress, environmentalists, independent, dollar)

[Visvaldis]

Originally Posted by faith10

Isn't Kentucky where you are, in the Bible belt?

Currently, yes. Moving to kentucky 6 years ago from Chicago was one of my life's biggest mistakes. I plan to depart. Never again will I consider living South.

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by Visvaldis

Currently, yes. Moving to kentucky 6 years ago from Chicago was one of my life's biggest mistakes. I plan to depart. Never again will I consider living South.

Is Tennessee the same? A lot of dissafected Floridians are considering moving to *real Dixie* to escape. Maybe you should travel up to the Florida forum to warn them!

[Elkman]

PLEASE SECEDE FROM THE U.S.!!!!!! TAKE ARIZONA, NEW MEXICO, WITH YOU! POSSIBLY TEXAS TOO! OK, so maybe split Texas up. GIVE THEM TO MEXICO! Wait. We already did that.

[Mach50]

California Republic

"... Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form
of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right
of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
Government, laying its foundation on such principles and
organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most
likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

-- United States Declaration of Independence


Californians are ruled by a corrupt hostile federal government at the mercy of the other non-progressive states. This is not our way.

Why should Californians be ruled by anyone other than Californians?

Our innovation will go through the roof without having to abide by federal laws, think about patent laws, stem cell research, aerospace, software.

Think of how much we could progress without the other states holding us back.

[boiseguy]

Originally Posted by Mach50Thunderdart

California Republic

"... Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form
of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right
of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
Government, laying its foundation on such principles and
organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most
likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

-- United States Declaration of Independence


Californians are ruled by a corrupt hostile federal government at the mercy of the other non-progressive states. This is not our way.

Why should Californians be ruled by anyone other than Californians?

Our innovation will go through the roof without having to abide by federal laws, think about patent laws, stem cell research, aerospace, software.

Think of how much we could progress without the other states holding us back.

good points.. but where would you be without the northwest states supplying you electricity.. and the inter-mountian rivers supplying water... you wouldn't get too far without the rest of us....

[Mach50]

Originally Posted by boiseguy

good points.. but where would you be without the northwest states supplying you electricity.. and the inter-mountian rivers supplying water... you wouldn't get too far without the rest of us....

The simple answer would be import it, until we could innovate something.
It would be worth it in the long run, we could also import electricity from Mexico.

[Elkman]

I'm all for States being separate from each other. Get the elephant off our back and watch us take pride in our own state. It may even get more people involved in their local community and state gov't. Eventually I think it will happen anyways.

[CarolinaBredChicagoan]

I'M RUNNING AWAY! Seriously. I'm going. I CAN'T LIVE IN THIS HOUSE ANYMORE! Seiously! I'm GOING!!!!

-silence-

I'LL DO IT!

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SERIOUSLY!


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Mom? Dad? Didn't you hear me say I'm going to run away?

[Mach50]

Originally Posted by CarolinaBredChicagoan

I'M RUNNING AWAY! Seriously. I'm going. I CAN'T LIVE IN THIS HOUSE ANYMORE! Seiously! I'm GOING!!!!

-silence-

I'LL DO IT!

-silence-

SERIOUSLY!


-silence-


Mom? Dad? Didn't you hear me say I'm going to run away?

Are you saying California doesn't have the fortitude to secede? I'll give you a chance to edit your post to add something intelligent to the conversation

[nativeDallasite]

Originally Posted by Mach50Thunderdart

Californians,

In the top 10 largest economies of the world, with prodigious industry, a diverse population, rich natural resources, and a growing rift with the federal government, why is California sharing a budget with the rest of the states when we could be enjoying our very own Republic?

I realize it federally cannot happen. However hypothetically, if California were able, would it be better off as its own country?

Economy of California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I wish it would; I'm sick to death of California and its problems...we'll do fine without it. Then we could regulate the flow of Californians moving to Texas.