Should California Secede from the US? (Iraq, middle east, soldiers, independence)

[Mach50]

Californians,

In the top 10 largest economies of the world, with prodigious industry, a diverse population, rich natural resources, and a growing rift with the federal government, why is California sharing a budget with the rest of the states when we could be enjoying our very own Republic?

I realize it federally cannot happen. However hypothetically, if California were able, would it be better off as its own country?

Economy of California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The economy of California is a dominant force in the economy of the United States, with California paying more to the federal system than it receives in direct monetary benefits

[OutOfSoCal]

since were dealing in the hypothetical. we just take over Mexico and create 5 more state and form our own union. this way not can we become a world power we got financial assistance from the US gov't. Then we can turn on them after they pay trillions to build us up.

to answer the original question NO

[magellan]

Sure, that sounds good. Just don't ask for any of the U.S.'s water then.

[music7lover]

Originally Posted by magellan

Sure, that sounds good. Just don't ask for any of the U.S.'s water then.

Good one!!

[veganwriter]

It's an illusion. I grew up in California. In one way ... perhaps it would ... but California is ... has attracted the wrong kind of people. It's no longer "California."

The weather is so nice, ya know? The greedy, the arrogant, and the corrupt have taken it over. Like it's football teams names ... Raiders and 49'ers ... pirates have flooded in to steal gold.

Where is all the money going to? It's being drained off somewhere. Oh ... but the rich in San Francisco now ... it's obscene ... in light of all the homeless and hungry.

The top 5% of the most riches keep getting tax breaks and everyone seems to feel fine about it .. I guess we all think we're going to be super rich one day too? (LOL)

Time to head for the Midwest where everyone seems to be leaving.

[18Montclair]

I do think we'd be better off, but on the other hand, I love my country.

Like a loveless marriage where we hang in it for the kids sake.

LOL

[califantastic]

It truly boggles my mind that there is not a large succession movement in California. California is the richest state in the US and pays more tax to the federal government that any other state. And what do we get for our taxes? We get idiot rednecks like Bush going into the Middle East, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people (including brave American soldiers), and bankrupting the country in the process. Bush is too stupid to realize that the reason the world hates the US and the reason terrorists want to blow up the US is because the US government has a history of doing stupid things like the war in Iraq. If we didn't do things like destroy Iraq terrorists would not be after us. Why should the hard earned money of the blue states go to pay for the stupid decisions of the idiot leaders elected by the red states?

Imagine how much better we could make the schools, infrastructure, environment, economy and other things in California if we invested all of the tax money the Federal government steals from us to blow up Iraq and instead invested that money in making California a better place.

California should not sit back and watch the rest of the country drag us down with them. We Californians should rise up, demand our independence, and create a much better California.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by califantastic

California should not sit back and watch the rest of the country drag us down with them. We Californians should rise up, demand our independence, and create a much better California.

where do I sign?

[Mach50]

• Fifth largest economy of any country in the world.
  
• For every $1 in Federal Tax California gives, we get $.81 back.
  
• 13% of the entire U.S. Gross National Product.
  
• 1.4 trillion dollar Gross State Product.
  
• 35 million people, over 12% of the U.S. population.
  
• 41.5% of Californians are considered to be minorities under the U.S. system compared to 24.9% for the rest of America. Our cultures don't match!
  
  
• 26.5% of Californians were born in a foreign country.
• Best place to live in the U.S! (Harris Poll)
  
• The 9 county Bay Area region alone has a population greater than 43 states! (Only Illinois, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Texas have more peopl

[Mach50]

CALIFORNIA GAVE THE WORLD THESE CONSUMER ITEMS

Blue jeans
Skateboards
Barbie Dolls
Bikinis (Modern version)
DirectTV
"Chinese" Fortune Cookies
"French" Dip Sandwiches
Famous Amos' Cookies
Mrs Field's Cookies
Boysenberries
Wine Coolers
Shirley Temples (The Drink)


PETS:

"Australian" Shepherds


CALIFORNIANS' CREATED THESE RESTAURANT CHAINS-

McDonald's
Carl Jr's
Taco Bell
IHOP
Planet Hollywood
Bob's Big Boy
Sambo's
Wolfgang Puck Cafe
Claim Jumper
Baskin-Robbins
The Green Burritto

KEEP GROWING CALIFORNIA!