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Old 03-04-2013, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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If pro lifers care so much, don't bash a welfare person who has a child...or about to have a child...maybe bring them a second hand baby stroller? You can not be pro-life and hate life if that life is poor.
How do you know we are not donating to charities that provide these things? Churches? Pregnancy clinics?

Nobody hates life.

But, we can have the opinion that the baby would be better off with a different family, or that perhaps they should have been more careful when having sex. It's not our responsibility to take care of people and their offspring when the parents have been irresponsible. At least not have the gov't mandate this help through our taxes and welfare programs.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:01 PM
 
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Maybe these jobless should be out looking for a job as opposed to shacking up and creating children they cannot afford. But alas, the pro-abortionists will never understand the concept of actions and consequences.
Do you understand the consequences of a rape victim being forced to have a child?
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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how do Christians reconcile the fact that they want to ban condoms, abortion and welfare for children all at the same time?

there is a major disconnect going on here
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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At least not have the gov't mandate this help through our taxes and welfare programs.
what do you propose should be done for the kids who are born to those on welfare?
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:10 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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how do Christians reconcile the fact that they want to ban condoms, abortion and welfare for children all at the same time?
link?

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there is a major disconnect going on here
there certainly is. it's located between your ears.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:10 PM
 
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Do you understand the consequences of a rape victim being forced to have a child?
Rape is not the same as consensual sex and I don't think the poster you were replying to was talking about rape.

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how do Christians reconcile the fact that they want to ban condoms, abortion and welfare for children all at the same time?

there is a major disconnect going on here
Catholics are the only people I am aware of that do not believe in condoms. Is it a stupid idea? Yes, but it isn't a Christian thing. You can probably say they don't believe in normal sex education though.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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sure, try the Bible and the official line of the Catholic church

this says no condoms, birth control, abortion.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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It's not our place to control what happens after the child is born. It IS our place to ensure that it gets to that point. We also advocate adoption endlessly but your side chooses not to listen. We also are more heavily involved in charity for children than you will ever realize, but that's only b/c you choose not to acknowledge it. It just doesn't fit in with your talking points.
Save the fetus screw the child? There are around 400,000 kids in the orphan system and only 100,000 waiting to adopt. If people opted for giving the kid up for adoption instead of abortion you would just have more kids ending up as wards of the state.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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Catholics are the only people I am aware of that do not believe in condoms. Is it a stupid idea? Yes, but it isn't a Christian thing. You can probably say they don't believe in normal sex education though.
Of course it is a Christian thing.

Catholics are Christians - ever heard of the Pope?

He is ordained by God and says NO to condoms.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:24 PM
 
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Of course it is a Christian thing.

Catholics are Christians - ever heard of the Pope?

He is ordained by God and says NO to condoms.
They are not the same thing. There are probably 10-15 different sects in the USA and they do not all believe that condoms are bad. Off the top off my head you have:

Catholic
Protestant
Baptist
Lutheran
Orthodox
Mormon
Evangelical
Methodist
Presbyterian
Pentecostal

Who know how many more. Can you honestly say that all those religions do no believe in condoms? I don't think you can.
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