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Are you liberals tired of being lied to yet? I love how he uses the word hypothetical instead of "for example"..
The end result is that President gave himself the power to kill US citizens. Un-freaking believable. Someone needs to stop this lunatic. He makes Bush look like the Pope.
Are you liberals tired of being lied to yet? I love how he uses the word hypothetical instead of "for example"..
The end result is that President gave himself the power to kill US citizens. Un-freaking believable. Someone needs to stop this lunatic. He makes Bush look like the Pope.
(this is a copy of a post I made in another thread.)
Look at the things Fox news has you all focusing on.
Drones that can attack targets are a new weapon just developed by the US military, and laws have to be made for them. The US government already has the right to kill US civilians with missiles and machine guns, from (manned) airplanes and helicopters. And US Military and Police Officials already have the right to kill US civilians with a guns.
Are you really against Americas military and police having the best weapons to do their job?
Obama did not wake up one mourning and say "I want to be able to kill US civilians with drones." He was approached by the US Military, FBI, and Policing agencies. There might come a day when a dangerous US citizen or group, is threatening other Americans lives, and Americas Military and Police want to be able to use drones to stop them if needed. And drones will make Americas Military and Police be much safer while they do their jobs.
Americas Military and Policing agencies want to be able to use drones to keep us safe, do you really want to tell them they can't use drones ?
The following link goes to PBS Nova. There's a episode called "Rise of the Drones." It explains drones its a great episode. Chances are that in the future, drones will replace most manned Military attack aircraft, and Americas Police will be using them too.
There might come a day when a dangerous US citizen or group, is threatening other Americans lives, and Americas Military and Police want to be able to use drones to stop them if needed. And drones will make Americas Military and Police be much safer while they do their jobs.
Americas Military and Policing agencies want to be able to use drones to keep us safe, do you really want to tell them they can't use drones ?
A good place to start would be with our government, from the top down. Our own government has been destroying, little by little, the American way of life as many of us knew it.
I enjoy seeing those on the left back up and drive over their principles time and time again to defend obama.
It's not about principles. It is about supporting their team. If this was John ******** who said that, we know they would have been terrified, but since it is their man it's all good.
Even if they trust Obama (which I do not see why), I just hope they remember that Obama will not be in the White House forever and the Democrats aren't assured to win the next Federal election. What are they going to do if a Republican wins the next election? Sure, President Obama might be trustworthy with that power, but would about a President Santorun or Bush III or Nixon II?
I miss the days when liberals used to be about questioning authority and supporting civil liberties. That is why I used to consider myself a liberal and when liberals stopped giving a f--k about civil liberties and became cool with whatever their guy did that is when I stopped calling myself a liberal. Although I suggest they start calling themselves "illiberals" because it is a much more apt label.
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Originally Posted by Bulldogdad
Uh think you need to read the Bill of Rights.
How many divisions does the Bill of Rights have?*
*Rep to whomever guesses who I'm paraphrasing and in what context.
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Originally Posted by ambient
...also, don't tell me this would not be happening exactly the same under any Republican president.
It's sad how Obama's supporters went from "Hope and Change" to "Well, Bush did it too".
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Originally Posted by TheHurricaneKid
While the government is INDEED putting an infrastructure to that allows it to install a VERY EFFECTIVE dictatorship....
...So far things are going as usual.
I implied it earlier in my post, but that is my point.
Homeland Security is slowly transforming into basically the Internal Troops of the US. The various anti-terrorism laws signed by Bush II and Obama are basically creating the type of networks of internal spy agencies and secret prisons that are usually reserved for dictatorships and totalitarian states.
But the majority of liberals don't care because it is their guy in charge (for the moment) and they seem to forgot that he won't be in charge forever.
Funny how quickly liberals changed their tune. Do I have to drag out some George W. Bush era media? I remember that episode of The Simpsons from 2004 where the Simpson family gets locked up in Alcatraz (which has been recommissioned into a reeducation center) because Bart accidentally mooned the American flag and they are locked up with Bill Clinton, Michael Moore, Al Franken, and the Dixie Chicks.
When did being a US citizen give a person immunity from being killed by a federal agent. Isn't that what the Secret Service Snipers are hire to do ? Kill who ever is a risk.I think it's a great ideal, terrorist don't need anything to hide behind; babies, hospitals, schools, women, or being a US citizen.
Are you liberals tired of being lied to yet? I love how he uses the word hypothetical instead of "for example"..
The end result is that President gave himself the power to kill US citizens. Un-freaking believable. Someone needs to stop this lunatic. He makes Bush look like the Pope.
Bush look like the Pope?
NAH!
But the Bush administration did authorize the shooting down of airliners if necessary on 9/11.
This is different than Holder saying in an extraordinary circumstance targeting an American(s) would be legal HOW?
Once again the right's obsession with the word drone and partisan BS cloud reality to the point it's no longer visible.
When did being a US citizen give a person immunity from being killed by a federal agent. Isn't that what the Secret Service Snipers are hire to do ? Kill who ever is a risk.I think it's a great ideal, terrorist don't need anything to hide behind; babies, hospitals, schools, women, or being a US citizen.
What does risk mean to you?
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