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She says its not the woman's place to defend herself, or to watch what she wears or where she goes, its the rapist who needs to be educated on not to rape. LMAO this idiot has to be one of the dumbest liberals I have ever watched. Really? So all we need to do is educate people not to rob banks and rape and steal. Who would have thought it was so easy. Stupid liberal.
Stupid men who don't get it. Or maybe they just don't want to.
I tried to explain this concept on another thread, but no one will listen. They'd rather blame the women, arm us with as many weapons as possible to help grow gun manufacturer profits, and make fun of us. And we're supposed to listen to YOU telling US what to do ... yeah.
This is a growing, legitimate movement in women's circles. The fact that men on this site refuse to understand is one of the reasons we have to talk about it. Most of you are the problem, as it happens: Making it all about the victim, instead of focusing on the effin' perpetrators -- MANY OF WHOM ARE STILL TEENAGERS, COLLEGE STUDENTS, and EVERYDAY PEOPLE -- not lifelong criminals.
So tell me, how many of YOU guys carry guns around when hanging with friends, just in case one of them decides to assault you? Hm? You really think guns are the answer? Hell no, the answer is to teach men not to rape their damn FRIENDS.
All that crap on the previous thread about "you can't teach a criminal not to commit a crime" is crap. Unless you think all these women are busy dating and hanging around hardened criminals, we STILL have a problem with men thinking sexual assault is just find and dandy.
And the misogynistic attacks that that intelligent black woman received for expressing a sensible concept pretty much says it all about you guys. Shameful.
Here's more of on it, since the OP is ignoring the details in order to get in a dig at liberals.
Maxwell’s comments got lots of attention and caused a ripple effect on weekend social media. Implicit in them was that the problem isn’t just individual behaviors, but a culture of patriarchy. This morning, she followed them up with a piece at EBONY.com on five ways we can teach men not to rape. “Rape culture is a pervasive part of our society because of social conditioning,” Maxwell wrote. “Yet we struggle to find ways to avoid patterns of victim blaming and many of us would rather advise women on the precautions they should take to avoid being raped as opposed to starting at the root of the problem: teaching men and boys not to be rapists in the first place.”
Here’s a snippet of the five points that Maxwell makes.
1. Teach young men about legal consent: Legal consent is number one for a reason. Without it, sexual contact with someone is rape whether you intended to rape or not. A woman who is drunk, unconscious, sleeping cannot give legal consent. And it’s not about a woman simply saying “no,” it’s really about making certain she’s saying yes.
2. Teach young men to see women’s humanity, instead of seeing them as sexual objects there for male pleasure: There is a reason why women are shamed into silence and teenage boys in Steubenville, Ohio are caught on camera laughing about gang raping an unconscious girl at a party. The dehumanization of women spans all areas of American life.
3. Teach young men how to express healthy masculinity: The question that’s being asked about what women can do to prevent violence against them is the wrong question. It’s not what can a woman say or do that can prevent being attacked. We need to turn that paradigm
4. Teach young men to believe women who come forward and not to blame the victim: The vast majority of women do not report their rapes to the police and many more only tell one or two people in confidence.
5. Teach young men about bystander intervention: Both Men Stopping Violence and Men Can Stop Rape have bystander intervention workshops for men of all ages. “It’s about community accountability,” says Pandit, “We require men to talk to other men in their lives and tell them about these programs. It is important that we have community networks that hold men accountable.”
Right, we're just going to "tell them" that rape is wrong. THEY KNOW IT'S WRONG. They don't care!
You can all sit on your little peace rug and have a chat over tea with your rapist, I'm going to shoot his arse. I most certainly DO have the right to defend myself.
1. Teach young men about legal consent: Legal consent is number one for a reason. Without it, sexual contact with someone is rape whether you intended to rape or not. A woman who is drunk, unconscious, sleeping cannot give legal consent. And it’s not about a woman simply saying “no,” it’s really about making certain she’s saying yes.
Are women taught to make men say yes? Are drunk men able to consent to have sex? Are we going to start having to sign written agreements for every sexual encounter?
In a lengthy post, above, there are some interesting philosophical views. Teach young men how to "express healthy masculinity"? Yea...But how do you define that? Also, if a man is disposed to rape, I really don't think he cares about right or wrong, or the damge he does to his victims. The single best way for a woman to deal with a rapist is violent and deadly defense. Kill the bastard! He knows, full well, the heinous nature of his attack. Sorry, not gonna buy pleading ignorance in rape cases. Please!
Someone very dear to me was attacked once. She didn't kill him, but she made him wish she had. I have no sympathy for a rapist, of any stripe, Educating them? Best education for a rapist is to be stopped, cold, and either killed, outright, or maimed beyond repair. End of story.
We cannot stop ingorance can we. Whether it be a rapist, or a criminal, or someone who clearly does not understand a rapist.
You don't tell a bank robber to stop robbing banks, and he listens, just like that. If you watch shows and documentaries on rapists, once they usually get out of prision, they go right back and do what it is they know best, rape again.
With rapist it is about power, and putting the fear into their victim. They don't care about age of the victim, or race, just about the rape and the power they possess at that time. Some rapists you can rehabilitate, but many just cannot change nor do they want to.
Whatever. The rest of the world is moving on without you.
I assume you also think we can sit down and talk out our differences with Al Qaida.
There are evil, horrible people in the world and no amount of education is going to stop someone who intends to commit rape. While it's not silly to have these discussions, as educating people about these crimes is never a bad idea and can help, it's never going to solve the problem. Women need to be able to defend themselves, if and when they're attacked.
Until we can somehow sanitize television, movies, music videos, magazines and the Internet, there will always be people selling images of women as sex objects. These representations have only gotten more explicit with the rise of the Internet. This is not going to change, and probably continue to get worse as our society's moral fiber continues to degrade.
This is basically the same as Rand Paul saying there is no need to use deadly force against terrorists because you can just ask them to surrender.
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