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I'm not 100% sure but I seem to remember that the Republicans emerged from the federalists (federal government over state rights). See the civil war.
Sometime in the 1960s, the two switched bases and I'm not sure why. I will have to look it up.
Democrats say that, because of the Southern Strategy. It lets them take a record of racism, throw it on Republicans, and wash their hands of it. "Not our fault, all the racists are Republicans now" That way, not only are they now "for" instead of "against" minorities (true), but could now tar the Republicans with the same crimes the bigotry that they were responsible for and were now abandoning (false).
When the Democrats switched and started backing Civil Rights, the Republicans saw a lot of whites in the South who had been abandoned by the Democrats in that switch, and decided to try to capture their votes. They were not willing to go past the Democrats in courting the blacks even harder, so instead they wooed the whites. The switch on the Democrat side was real, but the switch on the Republican side was merely an election strategy. They didn't suddenly go from the party that freed the slaves to the party that supported the KKK. It was a calculated political move. Just like how recently the Democrats became anti-Iraq War when it lost popularity and "forgot" they had voted for it in the first place.
In reality they did switch sides but it happened a long time before that. If you look back to 1900 and up you can see the real switch - the switch in philosophy.
The Progressives were big government just like today but extremely racist and attached themselves to the Democrats who were also racist but moderate Blue Dogs. The New Left was not racist but was big government and also attached themselves to the Democrats. They are the people coming out of the Vietnam Era with socialist influenced ideas coming from the Frankfurt school of cultural Marxism using idenity politics to bring about socialist influenced policies, heavily influenced by Alinsky end justifies the means politics (which you can see in Obama's autobiography). Over time the big government elements grew while the overtly racist elements diminished. However, there is a "soft" racism in that keeping the support of all the minority groups involves keeping them dependent upon government. In modern times many Blue Dogs have become independent and many have been assimilated into the Progressive wing. Most of the liberals on C-D appear to be New Left Alinskyites.
The Republicans were for central government as opposed to state governments due to wanting centralized government to abolish slavery. That didn't make them "big government" as we think of it, though. An amalgamation of various groups that opposed particular elements of the left wing were put together as the New Right largely by William F Buckley. Unfortunately (for people like myself) this group became dominated by the people who were socially conservative anti-communists rather than fiscally conservative constitutionalists, and that's where today's neocon Republican party comes from. Now you've got a Republican party dominated by aggressive pro- private sector people supported by small government free market people in the minority. Most of the conservatives on C-D seem to be from this libertarian leaning element of the GOP.
So it is actually vastly more complex than just "we switched sides in the 60s". But by focusing purely on the race part of things, the Democrats can create a "good" vs "evil" thing out of it.
Because I believe in small govt., non-intervention unless necessary, fiscal conservatism, gun ownership, THE CONSTITUTION, personal freedom and think the federal govt. should stay out of marriage, marijuana and abortion. Leave those up to the States.
Rand Paul 2016
This sums it up and I forgot to mention legalization of drugs (which I support).
Democrats say that, because of the Southern Strategy. It lets them take a record of racism, throw it on Republicans, and wash their hands of it. "Not our fault, all the racists are Republicans now" That way, not only are they now "for" instead of "against" minorities (true), but could now tar the Republicans with the same crimes the bigotry that they were responsible for and were now abandoning (false).
Nope...wrong again. And you prove that by once again mentioning the right-wing "dependent upon government " meme and painting all the minorities with a broad stroke (a common fault of Republicans of today as recently witnessed in the elections). Yes it was a concerted effort by Democrats to pass the Civil Rights Act...just like how it was a concerted effort by Republicans to court the voters in the south who were pissed off at the Civil Rights Act, and because they were tired of losing elections. The GOP chose to aggressively pursue the Southern Strategy first under Goldwater, then brought to prominence by Nixon and finally culminating in its ascension via Reagan. The GOP chose to court the "Dixiecrats" and provide them solace under their umbrella. That they are now finding it hard to control and keep the lid on this far right faction is their and their doing only.
The libertarian philosophy is a pie-in-the-sky fantasy. It does not work in real life, and that's why most people reject it. We do need government in order to have a healthy society. Libertarians don't understand this fact.
The libertarian philosophy is a pie-in-the-sky fantasy. It does not work in real life, and that's why most people reject it. We do need government in order to have a healthy society. Libertarians don't understand this fact.
No. People don't want to understand it. They want to be dependent on the govt.!
Nope...wrong again. And you prove that by once again mentioning the right-wing "dependent upon government " meme and painting all the minorities with a broad stroke (a common fault of Republicans of today as recently witnessed in the elections).
Yes, I painted things with broad strokes. I gave an overview of a century in a matter of a couple paragraphs. You can't do that without painting with broad strokes.
Yes, they were dependent on government. That's not a "meme", that's a statement of reality. If someone is receiving government benefits to live then they are dependent on government. Democrats created the War on Poverty in the 1960s. And in the 1960s the percentage of minorities living in poverty was triple that of whites. Therefore, Democrats were pushing policies that made blacks dependent on government. That's 1+1=2.
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Yes it was a concerted effort by Democrats to pass the Civil Rights Act...just like how it was a concerted effort by Republicans to court the voters in the south who were pissed off at the Civil Rights Act, and because they were tired of losing elections. The GOP chose to aggressively pursue the Southern Strategy first under Goldwater, then brought to prominence by Nixon and finally culminating in its ascension via Reagan.
Uh..yes. This is what I said. Republicans went after the votes of Southern whites.
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The GOP chose to court the "Dixiecrats" and provide them solace under their umbrella. That they are now finding it hard to control and keep the lid on this far right faction is their and their doing only.
No, it's your doing. 50 years after the Southern Strategy, Democrats still say that the Republican party is a rampant hotbed of racism. In the words of your DNC chair the GOP "wants to bring back Jim Crow" and in the words of your Vice President will "put blacks back in chains"
Those are prominent Democrats doing their best to keep a ridiculous notion alive that 55 million Republicans are out to bring back slavery and segregation. It isn't Republicans' doing. Democrats are making a purposeful effort to keep this narrative going. Including you.
I do not. They are a sneaky shadow Republican group/offshoot/Trojan horse republican arm. A libertarian has never run in the Democratic party primary but many have run in GOP primaries...make of that what you will. If you like aspects of both parties call yourself an independent. I would vote for a crazy tea partier before a decepticon libertarian...at least the tea partier is upfront about their radical agenda.
You expose your ignorance with this post. Ron Paul (and others such as Gary Johnson) are quite upfront with their beliefs. There is no deception with Libertarians.
So would you prefer to vote for a crazy Democrat or a deception Democrat?
The libertarian philosophy is a pie-in-the-sky fantasy. It does not work in real life, and that's why most people reject it. We do need government in order to have a healthy society. Libertarians don't understand this fact.
And you don't understand Libertarians. We do want to have a government.
I do not. They are a sneaky shadow Republican group/offshoot/Trojan horse republican arm. A libertarian has never run in the Democratic party primary but many have run in GOP primaries...make of that what you will. If you like aspects of both parties call yourself an independent. I would vote for a crazy tea partier before a decepticon libertarian...at least the tea partier is upfront about their radical agenda.
You are off base; the LP bashes Republicans all the time. They do not adhear to the wacko social agenda the GOP has and actually adhear to a sound economic policy unlike the GOP.
Since you would vote for a Tea Partier before a member of the LP your credibility is shot.
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