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Old 03-13-2013, 11:50 AM
 
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I have some relatives who live in a dying manufacturing town and have been unemployed for years. They used to have great jobs on the assembly line and were paid very well for someone with no post High School Education and no specific skills other than working hard.

They lost their jobs to automation and outsourcing much of the work to overseas labor. Now they are sitting at home in their small town collecting benefits waiting for the factory to reopen, even though they know deep down that that will never happen. There are just no jobs for someone like them that pay more than minimum wage and even those have hundreds of applicants.

As long as they stay in that town they will be unemployed. How about the government paying them to relocate where there is jobs? Your thoughts?
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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In the past people relocated themselves to where the jobs are. The problem now is people have no need to relocate, they are well taken care of where they are. Fix the problem not the symptoms.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Why not since we give illegals bus tickets to go home over and over and over.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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I have some relatives who live in a dying manufacturing town and have been unemployed for years. They used to have great jobs on the assembly line and were paid very well for someone with no post High School Education and no specific skills other than working hard.

They lost their jobs to automation and outsourcing much of the work to overseas labor. Now they are sitting at home in their small town collecting benefits waiting for the factory to reopen, even though they know deep down that that will never happen. There are just no jobs for someone like them that pay more than minimum wage and even those have hundreds of applicants.

As long as they stay in that town they will be unemployed. How about the government paying them to relocate where there is jobs? Your thoughts?
Unemployed for years, no higher education, no skills? Exactly where would there be jobs for them? Automation, and mostly because of outsourcing, the manufacturing industry has all but disappeared.

There are going to be around 18 million "new Americans" that can't speak English, have a 5th grade education (if that), no skills, who will need work and I'm sure this administration will see them as being a priority in securing work for them.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Unemployed for years, no higher education, no skills? Exactly where would there be jobs for them? Automation, and mostly because of outsourcing, the manufacturing industry has all but disappeared.

There are going to be around 18 million "new Americans" that can't speak English, have a 5th grade education (if that), no skills, who will need work and I'm sure this administration will see them as being a priority in securing work for them.
FF and big box retail are all over the US.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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Why not since we give illegals bus tickets to go home over and over and over.
Good connection. Never even thought of that.

To the OP...depends. If they can show that they've had a good work history when they were actually working and the program is means tested, I could live with it.

Not for the total cost though. Maybe half...that way, you'd be able to safely assume that the person is very serious about the move...and not just looking for a long term vacation somewhere else.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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I have some relatives who live in a dying manufacturing town and have been unemployed for years. They used to have great jobs on the assembly line and were paid very well for someone with no post High School Education and no specific skills other than working hard.

They lost their jobs to automation and outsourcing much of the work to overseas labor. Now they are sitting at home in their small town collecting benefits waiting for the factory to reopen, even though they know deep down that that will never happen. There are just no jobs for someone like them that pay more than minimum wage and even those have hundreds of applicants.

As long as they stay in that town they will be unemployed. How about the government paying them to relocate where there is jobs? Your thoughts?
No. Why have they been unemployed for so long? Surely they could take a job, any job.
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Old 03-13-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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No. Why have they been unemployed for so long? Surely they could take a job, any job.
They are sitting in dying factory towns with 100s of applicants for minimum wage jobs.
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Old 03-13-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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I have some relatives who live in a dying manufacturing town and have been unemployed for years. They used to have great jobs on the assembly line and were paid very well for someone with no post High School Education and no specific skills other than working hard.

They lost their jobs to automation and outsourcing much of the work to overseas labor. Now they are sitting at home in their small town collecting benefits waiting for the factory to reopen, even though they know deep down that that will never happen. There are just no jobs for someone like them that pay more than minimum wage and even those have hundreds of applicants.

As long as they stay in that town they will be unemployed. How about the government paying them to relocate where there is jobs? Your thoughts?
Which government? State government, sounds like a reasonable idea. Federal government? There's no constitutional authority to do that.
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Old 03-13-2013, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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Most of the thriving areas probably don't want to take another area's long term unemployed. They'd be a little worried that the dislocated would just find a way to be long term unemployed at their new location.
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