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Old 03-09-2013, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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And this is why you will not win in 2016. Because you assume that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a Liberal. But we are not. People who are in the center of Americans politics and registered Independents like me find your extreme conservatism to be a complete turn-off. And until the Republican party stops trying to ram their social conservatism and religious beliefs down our throats they are going to continue losing.

And that might be a lesson that your buddy Rand Paul could take on board.
The Democratic Party has moved so far to the fringe left that you probally do think that you are in the center - but you are mistaken. The center is occupied by conservatives - so if you truly do call yourself a centrist independent, you want to vote for Republicans.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:56 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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I posted something relevant to the thread that you failed to address. Do Police often deny citizens due process or not?
Did you or would you have posed the same question related to using drones on American citizens within US borders to then President Bush?
Your post basically was criticizing someone for defending your civil rights because you think he wouldn't have done the same under Bush.

Why the hell is that important as long as he stands for your rights? Better late than never. I hate this type of thinking. I won't dignify the rest with a response.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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Not surprising seeing as she was put up against Christie, Ryan and Rubio.....
Christie and Ryan will never get the GOP nod.

Nice try though.




Rand Paul 2016
And you believe Rand Paul will beat those 3 in the primary?!!
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:57 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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This tells me all I need to know about you. Mrs Clinton enjoys probably the highest approval rating of any political figure out there.
Rand Paul OTOH
Because no one knows what she does to dislike her. Just get her in front of the poodle, and see who wins.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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The Democratic Party has moved so far to the fringe left that you probally do think that you are in the center - but you are mistaken. The center is occupied by conservatives - so if you truly do call yourself a centrist independent, you want to vote for Republicans.
Then it would appear that the majority of the country must have moved to your 'fringe left' when they re-elected Obama.

Alternatively, you may wish to leave that fantasy land which imagines that a conservative is in the center of American politics.

The sad thing is that you have learned nothing from the last election.
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:02 PM
Status: "Elect a clown? Expect a circus!" (set 11 days ago)
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Because no one knows what she does to dislike her. Just get her in front of the poodle, and see who wins.
Really hung up on that poodle, aren't ya?
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: texas
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The Democratic Party has moved so far to the fringe left that you probally do think that you are in the center - but you are mistaken. The center is occupied by conservatives - so if you truly do call yourself a centrist independent, you want to vote for Republicans.
Thanks for that...I was wondering how I should vote.
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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sj. I know it will surprise you but many presidents have used prepared materials for speeches. Teleprompters are relatively recent but the equivalent were used well before then.

One of the most famous presidential speeches ever made - Gettysburg Address - was prepared before the event by Lincoln
himself.
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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And this is why you will not win in 2016. Because you assume that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a Liberal. But we are not. People who are in the center of Americans politics and registered Independents like me find your extreme conservatism to be a complete turn-off. And until the Republican party stops trying to ram their social conservatism and religious beliefs down our throats they are going to continue losing.

And that might be a lesson that your buddy Rand Paul could take on board.
I'm not Republican
I am not socially conservative.

Rand Paul believes in leaving social issues to the States. I agree with that. That is hardly socially conservative.



Rand Paul 2016
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:23 PM
 
Location: The Golden State, USA
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Your post basically was criticizing someone for defending your civil rights because you think he wouldn't have done the same under Bush.

Why the hell is that important as long as he stands for your rights? Better late than never. I hate this type of thinking. I won't dignify the rest with a response.
I never took the position that my Civil Rights were under attack, so he wasn't defending my Civil Rights. I'm sure Rand Paul is also a card carrying member of the ACLU, right?
Like I said, any rational person wouldn't take the position that the President is going to use drones against them on American soil.
All Rand Paul was doing was making a spectacle of himself. Hey Look at me!!!!
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