Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-09-2013, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
12,770 posts, read 11,563,570 times
Reputation: 4262

Advertisements

Police Chiefs are finding it near impossible to fire bad cops due to arbitration and union rules. In Philadelphia, 9 out of 10 cops that were fired were rehired after they appealed.
If you expect them back on the force, you probably don't want to be the cop that ratted them out.

CBS News: 'Bad Cops Rarely Fired for Bad Behavior' - informationliberation


Bad cops rarely fired for bad behavior - YouTube#!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-09-2013, 03:27 PM
 
33,387 posts, read 34,837,332 times
Reputation: 20030
this is why public sector unions need to be destroyed completely. and before anyone says anything, they are already covered under civil service laws so a public sector union is not only unnecessary, but a huge drain on the system.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-09-2013, 03:30 PM
 
1,127 posts, read 903,772 times
Reputation: 330
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbohm View Post
this is why public sector unions need to be destroyed completely. and before anyone says anything, they are already covered under civil service laws so a public sector union is not only unnecessary, but a huge drain on the system.
Naive and incredibly stupid to think that destroying unions will rid this country of corrupt cops
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-09-2013, 03:41 PM
 
45,226 posts, read 26,437,203 times
Reputation: 24980
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Green Giant View Post
Naive and incredibly stupid to think that destroying unions will rid this country of corrupt cops
You agree it would make it easier to do so?
If not, I know someone naive and stupid too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-09-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
29,094 posts, read 26,005,925 times
Reputation: 6128
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Green Giant View Post
Naive and incredibly stupid to think that destroying unions will rid this country of corrupt cops
Nice strawman.

It won't, but it will make it possible to get rid of more bad apples than can be done now with union control.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-09-2013, 05:55 PM
 
1,520 posts, read 1,873,536 times
Reputation: 545
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbohm View Post
this is why public sector unions need to be destroyed completely. and before anyone says anything, they are already covered under civil service laws so a public sector union is not only unnecessary, but a huge drain on the system.
As much I am pro union and a member of a public sector union, I painfully have to agree with you to a point when it comes to public safety. Not only in the public sector but the private sector as well. Bus drivers, airline pilots and such cannot be allowed to show up to work drunk and keep their jobs.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-09-2013, 05:56 PM
 
1,520 posts, read 1,873,536 times
Reputation: 545
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Green Giant View Post
Naive and incredibly stupid to think that destroying unions will rid this country of corrupt cops
It will help by making it easier to fire them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-09-2013, 09:54 PM
 
33,387 posts, read 34,837,332 times
Reputation: 20030
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Green Giant View Post
Naive and incredibly stupid to think that destroying unions will rid this country of corrupt cops
i am not naive or stupid. i realize that just eliminating the public sector unions wont eliminate bad behavior of any kind. it will however make it much easier to fire those that break the public trust. these people who do this need to be dealt with harshly, and they should NEVER be allowed to work in the public sector EVER again.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2013, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
12,770 posts, read 11,563,570 times
Reputation: 4262
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Green Giant View Post
Naive and incredibly stupid to think that destroying unions will rid this country of corrupt cops
Do you have any better ideas? You did read the op, correct?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-10-2013, 08:18 AM
 
Location: USA
13,255 posts, read 12,126,416 times
Reputation: 4228
We need an independent agency responsible for investigating and prosecuting police officers. Started a thread on it a few months back.


Basically, any person could file a claim of malpractice/abuse whatever the issue is with the officer. The claim would be reviewed and determined by the agency whether it's worth investigation. If the case passes the smell test and is worthy of being investigated then the agency conducts the investigation and if wrongdoing is found, the agency will act as the "citizens" prosecutor and go after the officer(s) involved.


There'd have to be some stipulations where citizen's are held accountable for their sworn affadavits, but other than that, I think it could work.

We have an excess of lawyers right now. Might be great for some young lawyers to get together and start an organization like that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:11 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top