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Old 03-18-2013, 11:28 AM
 
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Any rational person would understand that in order for an organism to undergo slow evolutionary change, by the mechanisms and processes defined by Darwin, they could NEVER be in such a state of completion as well as undergoing constant slow changes.

Any rationale person would not look to someone who thought the Sandy Hook Shootings were some work of a dark and secret organization bent on taking the world. . .for advice on scientific theories.


If your going Ad Hominium, you might as well take out the guns.

Seriously - this is like those same comments on the conspiracy posts. You define the world, and then put a observation based on the fake world you defined, and then you call people non-rationale for not disagreeing with your conclusion.

Look YEs your right If A then B, then C

The problem is. . you made up A, out of thin air. You put constraints on the world that don't exist

Funny how you use this technique consistently.

 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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According to nuts in the unexplained phenomenon forum, we were seeded by aliens. We should teach that! /sarcasm.

Look, evolution is science, and must be taught as part of any science curriculum. Creationism or ID or whatever they want to call it, is not science. It has no part in a science curriculum. Now, if you want to teach it as part of a religion or mythology curriculum, go for it.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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Evolution is a scientific theory, creationism isn't a scientific theory. You seem to be confusing the term "scientific theory" with plain old "theory.


These are not the same. Theories do not belong in schools, well-substantiated and documented scientific theories do.


Scientific Theory

"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.[1][2] Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and do not make apodictic propositions; instead, they aim for predictive and explanatory force."


Theory

Theory is a contemplative and rational type of abstract or generalizing thinking, or the results of such thinking.
Thank you for that explanation, but, if I may contradict you in one way, I don't even ascribe creationism to being a theory. It is nothing but pure, unadulterated relgious dogma. There is no rational thinking associated with creationism, just dogma.

If someone found a passage in the bible that said 2 plus 2 = 6.5, the deceivers would be demanding a recalibration of all calculators and devices that perform addition to meet the newly-discovered mathematical fact that 2 + 2 = 6.5!!!!

P.S. Proclaiming with absolute arrangance, that anyone with a brain knows that 2 + 2 = 6.5.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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"For any organism to exist, it must be a member of a complete, fully evolved and adapted species."
What a complete load of rubbish.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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What a complete load of rubbish.
Right. As if you even understood it.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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According to nuts in the unexplained phenomenon forum, we were seeded by aliens. We should teach that! /sarcasm.

Look, evolution is science, and must be taught as part of any science curriculum. Creationism or ID or whatever they want to call it, is not science. It has no part in a science curriculum. Now, if you want to teach it as part of a religion or mythology curriculum, go for it.
This sounds like the best compromise. I learned about Roman, Norse and Greek mythology so why not let people learn about Islam, Hinduism, Christianity and their respective beliefs as well.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 01:12 PM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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And you can't prove that creation is just a myth. Both theories should be presented as just that: theories. Suggesting that those who ascribe to the creation theory are delusional is a bit insulting don't you think?
Creationism is not a theory. For one thing, it is does not make any falsfieable predictions.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 01:17 PM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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No, it's a law, not a theory.



It most certainly is.
Gravity is a theory as well. The law of gravity is just "we experience a force called gravity". The specific details of it is theory. As it is theoritical physics.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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This is what they were probably referring to as 'Behemoth".


EPIC Hippo gets out of the water then POOPS & FARTS & SHAKES ITS TAIL LOL - YouTube


LOL! Imagine this creature on board Noah's ark!
 
Old 03-18-2013, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Here's more of that evidence that doesn't exist.

Fossils of Earliest Old World Monkeys Unearthed - Yahoo! News
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