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Old 03-18-2013, 09:54 PM
 
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That is not a serious debate.

No one with any sense of rationality whatsoever could ever suscribe to the unprovable theory of evolution.
Well, except all the learned and educated scientists, educators and lay people who do.

 
Old 03-18-2013, 09:55 PM
 
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I do compete in a technological world - it has been my livliehood.

Stop spouting nonsense out of ignorance.
Not biology, for sure. Perhaps you should take your own advice, for that is just abou all you do.
 
Old 03-18-2013, 11:34 PM
 
Location: USA
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Creationism is not science, and thus it has no place in a science class.
 
Old 03-19-2013, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Holy Cow! That's a real book? "Exploring Creation With Physical Science"? That's on the approved curriculum for home schooling? Are you kidding me?
I feel so sorry for that kid.
 
Old 03-19-2013, 01:49 AM
 
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Yep - evolutionists believe in some pretty humorous notions.

Makes one shake their head.
Believing as you do, that the earth is only between 5000 to 15,000 years old and that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time, and that all forms of life came into being at the same time, are some extremely humorous notions.

Makes one drop their jaw in disbelief that an adult in the 21st century in a first world country could seriously believe such nonsense.
 
Old 03-19-2013, 01:55 AM
 
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Believing as you do, that the earth is only between 5000 to 15,000 years old and that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time, and that all forms of life came into being at the same time, are some extremely humorous notions.

Makes one drop their jaw in disbelief that an adult in the 21st century in a first world country could seriously believe such nonsense.
...Despite our technological advancement, religious politicians have a stronghold on religion simply by involving the next generations.
 
Old 03-19-2013, 02:07 AM
 
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God doesn't exist, but of he did, he would absolutely qualify as a village idiot.
Young earth creationists do claim that their god created them in it's own image....
 
Old 03-19-2013, 02:33 AM
 
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Only God is perfect.

We are made in the image of God - an image is never a perfect representation of the original.
So are you saying that young earth Creationists are not 'perfect' village idiots like their god, they're less than perfect village idiots? If so, I agree.
 
Old 03-19-2013, 02:38 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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That is not a serious debate.

No one with any sense of rationality whatsoever could ever suscribe to the unprovable theory of evolution.
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The Discovery Institute announced that over 700 scientists had expressed support for intelligent design as of February 8, 2007.[66][67] This prompted the National Center for Science Education to produce a "light-hearted" petition called "Project Steve" in support of evolution. Only scientists named "Steve" or some variation (such as Stephen, Stephanie, and Stefan) are eligible to sign the petition. It is intended to be a "tongue-in-cheek parody" of the lists of alleged "scientists" supposedly supporting creationist principles that creationist organizations produce.[68][69] The petition demonstrates that there are more scientists who accept evolution with a name like "Steve" alone (over 1200[70]) than there are in total who support intelligent design. This is, again, why the percentage of scientists who support evolution has been estimated by Brian Alters to be about 99.9 percent.[28]
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According to a 2009 survey, conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and the American Association for the Advancement of Science, 97 percent of scientists believe that humans and other livings things have evolved over time.
Of the more than 2,500 scientists surveyed, only 2 percent said they believe human beings have existed in their present form since the beginning of time, while 87 percent said they believe that evolution is due to natural processes, such as natural selection.
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Another early effort to express support for evolution by scientists was organized by Nobel Prize Winner German biologist Hermann J. Muller in 1966. Muller circulated a petition entitled "Is Biological Evolution a Principle of Nature that has been well established by Science?" in May 1966:
There are no hypotheses, alternative to the principle of evolution with its "tree of life," that any competent biologist of today takes seriously. Moreover, the principle is so important for an understanding of the world we live in and of ourselves that the public in general, including students taking biology in high school, should be made aware of it, and of the fact that it is firmly established, even as the rotundity of the earth is firmly established.[48]
This manifesto was signed by 177 of the leading American biologists, including George G. Simpson of Harvard University, Nobel Prize Winner Peter Agre of Duke University, Carl Sagan of Cornell, John Tyler Bonner of Princeton, Nobel Prize Winner George Beadle, President of the University of Chicago, and Donald F. Kennedy of Stanford University, formerly head of the United States Food and Drug Administration.[49]
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The vast majority of the scientific community and academia supports evolutionary theory as the only explanation that can fully account for observations in the fields of biology, paleontology, molecular biology, genetics, anthropology, and others.[22][23][24][25][26] One 1987 estimate found that "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science".[27] An expert in the evolution-creationism controversy, professor and author Brian Alters, states that "99.9 percent of scientists accept evolution".[28] A 1991 Gallup poll of Americans found that about 5% of scientists (including those with training outside biology) identified themselves as creationists.[29][30]
Sure...all these scientists, paleontologists, geneticists, biologists, anthropologists, medical doctors, PHDs, and Nobel Prize winners have no "sense of rationality." They're all incapable of rational thought.

Meanwhile...

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A 1997 study found that fewer than 20% of Americans possessed basic scientific literacy[145] and a People for the American Way poll found that less than half (48%) of those polled chose the correct definition of evolution from a list.[139] In 2006, New Scientist reported that almost 2/3 of Americans believe they share less than half their genes with "monkeys", when in fact the figure is between 95–99% depending on the primate and comparison method.[146]
These people are bastions of rationality and scientific thought.

The level of willful ignorance and delusion among creationists is utterly mind boggling.
 
Old 03-19-2013, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Sure...all these scientists, paleontologists, geneticists, biologists, anthropologists, medical doctors, PHDs, and Nobel Prize winners have no "sense of rationality." They're all incapable of rational thought.
Appeal to popularity is fallacial.
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