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Old 03-15-2013, 12:44 PM
 
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Biology, chemistry, and physics are nothing more than the study of God's creation.

There is nothing wrong with teaching biology , as long as it doesn't include the myth of evolution.
Why do you keep referring to fact as myth? No educated person disputest evolution. Only those steeped and inculcated in dogma dispute it, but such inculcaton is NOT education.

Evolution IS a major part of biology, which you seem to be ok with, sort of, in a luke-warmish sort of way.

I have got very bad news for you, When you die, (hopefully after a long and rewarding life), you are gone, finito, forever and ever. There is nothing for you beyond death, for death is absolute and final. Grasp that reality, and quite playing quasi-intellectual games, that amount to nothing more than self-flaggelation, with yourself.

 
Old 03-15-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I have got very bad news for you, When you die, (hopefully after a long and rewarding life), you are gone, finito, forever and ever. There is nothing for you beyond death, for death is absolute and final. Grasp that reality, and quite playing quasi-intellectual games, that amount to nothing more than self-flaggelation, with yourself.
Wrong.

The body may die but the soul lives forever.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro
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Evolution is biological history, mutation, and statistics.
B/c not everybody agrees with it, same as we don't teach creation in schools. Reserve it for a college biology class.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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Wrong.

The body may die but the soul lives forever.
More bad news, neither you, nor I, nor anyone else has, or has ever had, a soul. Face your mortality like a man, and make the best of this life, for it is all you will ever have. Overcome your fear - be brave.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro
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There is a difference in the meaning of the word "theory" in scientific terms vs. "theory" as "something that cannot be proven." The "theory" of evolution is just as observable as any other scientific theory (such as that the moon causes the tides, for example). That is why Creationism, as explained by ANY religion, doesn't belong in non-religious schools.
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species change over time. but one species cannot evolve into another species. that has never been proven. by anyone. ever. so don't lie to children. saying evolution is a fact is like saying the sky is blue is a fact. well it depends on the context and condition.
The second post here is why evolution is NOT observable.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro
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Since we clearly can't agree, then no, it shouldn't be taught at all. Just tell them the world is and we can't explain why.
I don't think it even needs to be addressed in school. Leave it to the parents to teach whichever creation story they please.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro
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The problem with your suggestion is we do know how the world works and how species differentiate and change into new species over time in response to changing environmental conditions. Not teaching this just leaves the children ignorant and subject to mythical religious nonsense.
The anger and disdain for Christianity in your posts is exactly why it should NOT be taught by teachers. If you were a teacher, could you honestly leave out such terminology as "religious nonsense" and your attitude about it? Probably not. It's indoctrination.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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Already proven by many posts in this thread.

Just saying something is proven doesn't make it so. Not even evolutionists agree on some of the basic, fundamental, and most important questions (as I previously pointed out). So, the only thing that has been proven thus far is that the majority of the unwashed drooling masses will believe any cockamamie story fed them by the so-called evolution scientists, who themselves have proven only one thing .... that they cannot even agree with each other about necessary elements that explain this so-called "proven theory".

But, don't let me be the one to ruin your fantasies .... if you want to believe that Mount Rushmore is a simple rock formation which naturally formed from eons of rock erosion, and wasn't created by an intelligent designer ..... be my guest. Just don't destroy the minds of children with such blathering nonsense.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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Not stupid, just completely deceived on the issue of "god" in general, and evolution/creationism in this case.

It isn't based on stupidity, but, rather a completel and total fear of facing the reality of mortality, i.e. that you are born, you live, and your die, and that is all there is for you - period! That finalty of death is horrifying and hence distortes beyond any recognition, any hope of clear thinking on this issue. Hence, the heart-felt belief in an absolute fantasy (god, creationism, heaven, hell et al).
Since you can believe in God without believing in an afterlife and you can believe in an afterlife without disbelieving in evolution I don't really see that argument being valid. It's just supposition. You can have a heart-felt belief in an absolute fantasy that includes evolution and doesn't include heaven.

It's just another take on the "people need religion as a crutch" dead horse that people love to beat.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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Wrong.

The body may die but the soul lives forever.
The matter may decay into energy, but the energy goes on and on and on. Only that energy doesn't have to be considered a soul, it doesn't have to go "someplace", it simply is.
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