U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
29,124 posts, read 22,032,738 times
Reputation: 6128

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbcmh81 View Post
Evolution is fact. It happens. The only unknown are the exact mechanisms behind it. People act like scientific theory is like religious faith. One is based on evidence and testing, the other is based on wild guesses that make them feel better.
There is no testing that has been done that proves that evolution occurred or occurs.

By definition - it cannot be tested.

 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:06 PM
 
3,742 posts, read 2,592,973 times
Reputation: 891
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sound of Reason View Post
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdUGoFTfP7w[/URL]
[url=http://www.leestrobel.com/channels/CFChrist.php]Lee Strobel: Channel: The Case for Christ[/url]
[url=http://creation.com/]creation.com[/url]

Where are the transitional fossils that would indicate that evolution has occurred? You'd think that there would be thousands of transitional fossils, and yet, we don't see any.

By the way, fossilization can occur rapidly.

What do you, a fossilized hat, proving that fossilization can occur rapidly under the right conditions.

[URL]http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4702002266244841&pid=15.1&H=109&W=160[/URL]


No, DNA proves the exact opposite, for mutations within DNA do not add any new information from a genetic standpoint, but rather take away. Since they take away, they can't add new material, but rather only select-for modified genes already within genetic pool. One example of this is in the way the Y-Chromosome is gradually breaking down over the generations. Since males are XY and females are XX, through the process of meiosis, the production of female gametes (eggs) allows for mutations to be covered over (since they have two x's). On the other hand, the Y chromosome over time is breaking down, given that problems arising are not able to be covered over, as there is only one X.

Actually, there has never been any evidence of any changes within any multicellular organism. There has not been any direct observation of this happening. There are not any transitional fossils proving this to be so. The reason that bacteria works is because it it only one cell. Since multicellular organisms are made up of anywhere from millions to trillions of cells, and since neither of the cells are going through division at the same time, it is virtually impossible for there to be any form of evolution in multicellular organisms.

Natural Selection occurs, but it is not evolution. It is simply a selection of the favored genes within the current gene pool based on environmental factors.

Actually, you're quite wrong. I'd say that it's odd that one would claim there to be such evidence when it doesn't exist.

What is micromolecules to man evolution, for it certainly isn't science. It's a religion, in a sense.
A mineral-encrusted hat is NOT a fossilized hat.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:08 PM
 
3,742 posts, read 2,592,973 times
Reputation: 891
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
There is no testing that has been done that proves that evolution occurred or occurs.

By definition - it cannot be tested.
O contraire. All of life around you, and they which came before, and that which will come in the future, is an ongoing, never-ending real-world demonstration of evolution in action.


You dont see it as such because"

1. It occurs too slowly for your mind to grasp

2. It contradicts your factless dogma

or

3. All of the Above.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:10 PM
 
811 posts, read 823,910 times
Reputation: 461
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin Rossi View Post
Wow, that is a record-setting goalpost-move if ever there was one. I assuming they are now in interstellar space, because that is the only place that could accomodate such a massive goalpost move. We are talking about evoution, not the origins of life.
It's one in the same, considering the argument for man's existence is that of evolution that began from the origins of life. At least according to evolutionists.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
29,124 posts, read 22,032,738 times
Reputation: 6128
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin Rossi View Post
O contraire. All of life around you, and they which came before, and that which will come in the future, is an ongoing, never-ending real-world demonstration of evolution in action.


You dont see it as such because"

1. It occurs too slowly for your mind to grasp
You have underscored why theory of evolution is untestable and thus unable to be proven - there is not enough time for any researcher to see it take place - so all they have is conjecture and supposition and "oh, lets add a couple million years to the age of the universe so that our theory will work".
 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:12 PM
 
811 posts, read 823,910 times
Reputation: 461
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin Rossi View Post
A mineral-encrusted hat is NOT a fossilized hat.
What do you think a fossil is? Replaced minerals.

"This miner's hat is rock hard. It was found in a mine in Tasmania where it had been covered with water for more than 50 years."


''Fossil'' Hat - Answers in Genesis
 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:15 PM
 
811 posts, read 823,910 times
Reputation: 461
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbcmh81 View Post
Evolution is fact. It happens. The only unknown are the exact mechanisms behind it. People act like scientific theory is like religious faith. One is based on evidence and testing, the other is based on wild guesses that make them feel better.
Actually, evolution is not fact, for it is not observed in nature. It's not even a hypothesis, but a cooked-up idea from mankind that has no real scientific basis. It's mere existence is to try to glorify man and to try to disprove God's mighty hand in creation. It's nothing but arrogance without a shred of evidence.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:16 PM
 
83 posts, read 70,587 times
Reputation: 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin Rossi View Post
What you are saying makes no sense at all. Of course we are animals. The genetic similarity between us and a squid is about 90%. We certainly aren't trees, and most of us are not rocks. Your dogma has completely obfuscated your ability to make or accept sense.
A squid can not speak, can not create art or music, and as far as a I know, shows no examples of moral consciousness or reasoning. The 90% boast is meaningless. There is a huge difference between humans and animals.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:21 PM
 
811 posts, read 823,910 times
Reputation: 461
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
All species are transitional.

So, all fossils are evidence of transition.
All species are transitional?

What are you talking about?

There is no evidence of transitions, implying that one type of organism became another type of organism. A dog is still a dog. A cat is still a cat, and so on.

God created KINDS, in which it is likely that the environment selected against or for certain existing genes within the originally created kinds. Some environments were better for some traits, whereas other environments were better for other traits. However, all the genetic material, and there is a lot of it, were in the original created kind.

This isn't evolution, but natural selection.

Evolution doesn't exist. It's a fairy tale.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 02:23 PM
 
40,110 posts, read 24,354,028 times
Reputation: 12619
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLASTED View Post
A squid can not speak, can not create art or music, and as far as a I know, shows no examples of moral consciousness or reasoning. The 90% boast is meaningless. There is a huge difference between humans and animals.
Actually, you don't know whether a squid can speak or not. You only know that squid don't communicate like humans do.

Human beings are animals.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top