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Old 03-18-2013, 04:45 PM
 
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The conspiracy behind the death of JFK & Bobby is such that even the POTUS of the day fear for their lives and the lives of their family that certain information will never see the light of day.


Listen closely to what this man has to say....


When people establish a counter narrative, it is a lot like a region. It isn't evidence that is thought, it is belief and assumptions that are stereotyped.

Asking if any counter narrative will ever be "known" is a fallacy in itself. You have no idea if there was a conspiracy, at least one on a scale you have noted here in this video. The same goes for the other zanny items such as Moon Landing, 9/11, Sandy Hook, and Aurora shooting.


If there was no conspiracy, then the evidence of that conspiracy ever coming to light is 0. You can't make something appear if it doesn't exist. Kind of like God. If there is no God, its hard to prove God's lack of existance.. .


and for the religious and counter narrative a like:


Do not ask me to believe in Cherry Picked Facts, or dubious fallacious arguments. For no skeptic will believe in a God just on the world of the religious.


Here is the truth. Do not look for malice, what can be easier explained through incompetence

Counter Narrative people seem to think the govt. is ultra competent, and can do anything it wants. Nothing goes wrong in our perfect lives without the US opinion and permission.

Skeptics point out the obvious - our govt. is run by idiots. negligence yes; conspiracy no
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:56 PM
 
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So why do you all think they won't release the final documents related to the assasination? It has been 50 years. Why not release the documents?
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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AS FDR once said: There are no accidents in poltics.

your article is interesting. IMO theres a reason so much disinfo is still proferred to the public. Look at the sources supplying that information.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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So why do you all think they won't release the final documents related to the assasination? It has been 50 years. Why not release the documents?


JFK planned to begin withdrawing troops from Viet Nam, which would have ruined yet another military-industrial moneymaker. He'd already bucked them (the Joint Chiefs and the CIA, at least) over Cuba by refusing being bullied into violating his firm stance of "no air support" for the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Now we know that the Cuban missile silos were completed and fully armed; attacking Cuba would have caused a nuclear incident and no doubt been the start of WW III. People who stage coups don't keep records; it's verbal, on a need-to-know basis, and the inner circle is very small. As to why withhold information, remember what Lord Harrington said: "Treason doth never prosper: What's the reason? Why if it prosper,none dare call it treason." Maybe the government prefers to keep its secrets...it's against their interests to royally p.o. the American people by letting it slip that we haven't had a truly free country since '63. I say, bless him...if he hadn't been so brilliant and strong, we likely wouldn't be here to post.

http://bostonreview.net/BR28.5/galbraith.html

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Old 03-18-2013, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Oswald acted alone.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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AS FDR once said: There are no accidents in poltics.

your article is interesting. IMO theres a reason so much disinfo is still proferred to the public. Look at the sources supplying that information.
FDR never said that.

FDR did NOT say “In politics, nothing happens by accident.” :

What were you saying about "disinfo?"
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:38 PM
 
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No, you will never know the truth. The government does not think you can handle it.

Many people know the truth. Most, if not all, of the Warren Commission is dead. But don't think for one minute that the archivists in the naional archives, the one's responsible for "protecting" the information have not read it.

One day, someone will come forward with information we have all suspected. It won't happen in my life time. But perhaps a future grandson will know what happened.
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Who cares about JFK or his family?

The Kennedys would make a great reality show set at a trailer park, characters suitable for a Faulknerian novel. Joe Kennedy, a crook, bought the presidency for Jack, notorious for cheating on his wife. Bobby was an obnoxious little monster, Teddy a lush, philanderer, and drowner of secretaries, Whatisname an accused rapist. The Kennedy women are best known as sots.

And then there was JFK Jr., a half-trained pilot flying over his head in marginal visibility at night over water with two innocent women along. For this, he probably deserved jail time. If he had done it alone, he might have passed as ballsy rather than stupid. Endangering his wife raises misjudgment to the higher plane of immoral irresponsibility.

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Old 03-18-2013, 11:52 PM
 
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Oswald acted alone.

Congress concluded otherwise. The House Select Committee said there was a conspiracy involved with the JFK assassination and Oswald did not act alone. Do you know something that they don't?
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:24 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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It appears now that certainly "we" won't ever know the truth. I'm surprised to learn that the release of those documents is being blocked by Obama! That's very disappointing. The more distance in time from the event, IMO, the more obvious it is that there was a cover-up. Too many crucial pieces of evidence just disappeared.
I know many many people both party's whom feel as you do. Yep the real truth, just got up and walked away, imagine that, imagine why! Wonder the real reason why!

I know many people to this day, feel so strongly, there was a cover up.
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