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Old 03-22-2013, 05:19 AM
 
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It's not meant to be. This is a troll thread--albeit an active one, but a troll thread nonetheless.

It goes on the RW's position that they have a lock on Christianity, or religion in general. The simple answer is, they don't.

What started out as simple idea: Love God, Love your neighbor, has turned into a tangled mass of ritual, meanness and hyprocrisy. Those who put themselves out there as an example of a perfect Christian may want to ask themselves just who Christ was the most angry at? The money changers in the Temple, and the hypocrites.
Conservative Christian zealots and the Pharisees Jesus got pissed with, have a lot in common.

Matthew 23
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:27 AM
 
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Proof that a liberal can't engage in an intelligent conversation about the Bible.

It is impossible for a liberal to talk about truth without mocking it.
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:28 AM
 
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This particular passage from the New Testament doesn't even need the word. It describes it in detail:

"For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."

(Romans 1)

Read the whole letter. (which I doubt you ever have). Especially the verses right before the one you took out of context.

The people were heterosexuals in 1st century Corinth where there were temples to pagan gods and goddesses. The men and women were involved in ritual sex orgies with each other while worshipping pagan fertility gods. Then because they had turned away from Paul's 'god', the women engaged in ritual anal sex with men, and likewise the men engaged in ritual anal sex with men.

What's that got to do with gay and lesbian people?
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Proof that a liberal can't engage in an intelligent conversation about the Bible.

It is impossible for a liberal to talk about truth without mocking it.

Proof you don't have an argument on why Paul was so wrong on human slavery, the role and place if women, yet you take his word,from one small line about roman sexual behavior as everything that is holy
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:34 AM
 
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You are free to believe what you want. But if you make any attempt to remove the word "homosexuality" from the Bible's many references as being abominations, then it seems to me that you are removing something from the word of God.

Even if you only try to "explain" it away as an interpretation. Be warned!
Tell that to the translators who first added it in 1946.

What 'many references' are you referring to?
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Old 03-22-2013, 05:39 AM
 
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2nd warning:

If you attempt to add the word "not kill" to God's commandments (in addition to "not murder") then you might be effectively "adding" to the word of God if that is your intention.
(And there is a consequence for that as well.)

While we are on the topic, I consider abortion to be a form of murder (not just killing).
What 'warning' are you referring to? It only refers to the prophecies in the book of Revelations.
Revelations 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

Revelation 22 NIV


You haven't even read the whole Bible have you? (Let alone studied it)


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Old 03-22-2013, 05:46 AM
 
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I pretty much said what Paul stated. Do you call Paul's writings self-righteous.
No, you didn't. You misrepresented what Paul stated.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:01 AM
 
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Not quite. An openly proud homosexual who claims to be a Christian is no different than an openly proud hedonist (drinker, dancer, clubber, fornicator, etc) of any type who says that they love God and that's all that matters.

It's a joke and an insult to God.

Brain scans show how people project their own views onto what they think are "God's" views.

Creating God in one's own image : Not Exactly Rocket Science


"Their opinions on God's attitudes on important social issues closely mirror their own beliefs. If their own attitudes change, so do their perceptions of what God thinks. They even use the same parts of their brain when considering God's will and their own opinions."

"The results suggest that similar parts of the brain are involved when we consider our own beliefs and those of God - Epley thinks this is why we end up inferring a deity's attitudes based on those we hold ourselves."
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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Romans: Chapter 1 - K J Version, is very clear about this subject
What subject? Worshipping pagan fertility gods?
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:29 AM
 
Location: North America
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Proof that a liberal can't engage in an intelligent conversation about the Bible.

It is impossible for a liberal to talk about truth without mocking it.

It really must suck to be you. There are a lot of inciteful conversations in this thread, only if you don't agree with them, you label it as mockery.
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