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Old 03-20-2013, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Yes, tis true, Iraqis are enjoying every day freedoms us Americans take for granted such as using internet & cell phones these days without fear of getting ran through a human meat grinder at the hands of an evil dictator.

WDM's or no WDM's, Liberal or Conservative, you can't deny the positive outcome of this.

Bush got blamed for a lot of ****, but in his own words, future historians will judge his decision to invade Iraq favorably not the idiots who voted for the other guy...whats his name again...Al Gore? LOL Oh yeah THAT guy who sold out to biased Muslim news network Al Jazeera.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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I bet the dead would beg to differ, if they could talk

thousands of US soliders and citizens. . .for what?

Not a lot
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:50 PM
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Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Yes, tis true, Iraqis are enjoying using internet & cell phones these days without fear of getting ran through a human meat grinder at the hands of an evil dictator.

WDM's or no WDM's, Liberal or Conservative, you can't deny the positive outcome of this.

Bush got blamed for a lot of ****, but in his own words, future historians will judge his decision to invade Iraq favorably not the idiots who voted for the other guy...whats his name again...Al Gore...Al Gore who? Oh yeah THAT guy who sold out to a biased Muslim news organization Al Jazeera.
Yeah, all those car bombings must add immeasurably to the Iraqis' quality of life, eh?

Besides, just WHERE does the Constitution task the US government with improving life in any country other than America?

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Old 03-20-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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I bet the dead would beg to differ, if they could talk

thousands of US soliders and citizens. . .for what?

Not a lot
More people are murdered on the streets of Chicago everyday than in all of Iraq.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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I bet the dead would beg to differ, if they could talk

thousands of US soliders and citizens. . .for what?

Not a lot
Not to discount I read several articles in 2002-2003 that pulled numbers from various human rights groups like Amnesty International and other medical relief agencies, and the number who died per month was estimated at 5000 a month, which comes out to about 166 per day.

Many of these were the elderly and infant children,
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:15 PM
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More people are murdered on the streets of Chicago everyday than in all of Iraq.
So maybe we should be worried about the US and NOT life in Iraq, eh?

And how many were murdered on the streets of Iraq during 'Shock & Awe' and following operations? I guess talking about that wouldn't suit whatever agenda you have.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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Ask the christians, if you can find any alive, how much fun they are having. We attacked a basically secularly ruled country and turned it into a muslim theocracy which does not tolerate christians who have lived there before the muslims.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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More people are murdered on the streets of Chicago everyday than in all of Iraq.
Well, no. Over the past 18 months, Iraq has had around 350-400 civilian deaths from militant violence (not just normal murders) every month, and another several dozen dead Iraqi police and military members. The Sunni west of the country is close to open revolt, and the militant attacks in the past few weeks seem to be getting bigger and more frequent. This happened yesterday alone:

Al-Qaeda in Iraq Claims Wave of Attacks

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In a statement posted on a militant website, the Islamic State of Iraq said the car bombs and other explosions came to avenge the executions and “massacres” of convicted Sunni inmates held in Iraqi prisons... They killed 65 and wounded more than 200, demonstrating in stark terms how dangerously divided Iraq remains more than a year after American troops withdrew.
Then of course we have religious minorities like the Christians, the Yazidis, the Mandeans, and other small groups that have been ethnically-cleansed from Iraq since 2003...
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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The op must have missed the car bombings that still go on from time to time. And also things could be heating up between the Kurds and the Iraqi gvt and we could be back over there. And comparing Chicago to Iraq is a joke, when was the last time Chicago had a car bombing that killed 20 or so people? Chicago is a cess pool but I would feel safer there then Iraq.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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We were at war with Iraq since 1991. Just didn't invade to finish the job until 2003. Spent almost 12 years conducting 'seige warfare' killing far more with sanctions than were killed by combat operations. We maintained a huge military presence over there those years prior to the invasion. It seemed inevitable that an invasion would occur, was it better sooner than later. It's not too different from Korea, where the US has been at war with since the 1950's. A cease-fire in an ongoing war with the world's most militarized zone.
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