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Old 03-22-2013, 08:51 AM
 
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This is what I hate about scientists. Many have such an ego that they can't tell the truth and just say, "It MIGHT be 80 million years older" instead of it "IS". They do this all the time. Plus 80 million is a blink of an eye in universe years.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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Being within 80 million out of a 15 billion is pretty damn close the first time.
It wasn't the first time. This isn't the first time the age of the universe has changed in scientific terms.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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Nature isn't looking for your approval.
Nor does it listen to scientific equations.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:58 AM
 
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Nor does it listen to scientific equations.
...but, as a matter of fact, science does listen to nature. How do you think it draws its conclusions and arrives at the equations?
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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This is what I hate about scientists. Many have such an ego that they can't tell the truth and just say, "It MIGHT be 80 million years older" instead of it "IS". They do this all the time. Plus 80 million is a blink of an eye in universe years.
Unlike those who "know" from the bible that the earth is 6,000 years old. Or 10,000, depending upon your source!
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:01 AM
 
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I would love to see your list of the major scientific theories that have been proven wrong over the past 50 years, along with an explanation of exactly what "proven wrong" actually means in each case.
Does one have to show every single one in the last 50 years to prove their point? If they miss one would that mean they have no point?

Why can't one or two be pointed out to show that just because a scientists says something is true, doesn't necessarily mean it's true?

C3: Antarctica: IPCC Proven Conclusively Wrong By Newest Research - South Pole Cooling

Climate Change - How the IPCC got it wrong

‘Hockey stick’ graph was exaggerated – McIntyre gets props | Watts Up With That?

Back in the 70's should we have simply agreed with the scientists that said that the world was cooling and headed into a new ice age?
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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...but, as a matter of fact, science does listen to nature. How do you think it draws its conclusions and arrives at the equations?
That isn't what I said so I really have no reason to address it. I said that nature doesn't listen to scientists.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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That isn't what I said so I really have no reason to address it. I said that nature doesn't listen to scientists.
In your attempt to invalidate scientific findings, you clearly made a point that nature does not conform to the scientific findings. I clearly stated that it is the other way around when it concerns conclusions based on scientific research and findings.

Fields of science are commonly classified along two major lines: - Natural sciences, the study of the natural world and - Social sciences.

Nature...Natural World...see the connecton now?
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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In your attempt to invalidate scientific findings, you clearly made a point that nature does not conform to the scientific findings. I clearly stated that it is the other way around when it concerns conclusions based on scientific research and findings.

Fields of science are commonly classified along two major lines: - Natural sciences, the study of the natural world and - Social sciences.

Nature...Natural World...see the connecton now?
Double speak. Simple ramblings. You didn't address my point.

For quite a few years recently (I will find the links if you insist) scientists predicted we would see some of the biggest storm seasons on records. We saw nothing of the sort. Nature didn't bother listening to the scientists.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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The law of Gravity is proven.

What "Law" explains how the earth was created, there are some theories out there, that cannot be proven into a Law(hence why they are still theories)

I just love how modern people can feel that we are smart enough to always have the answers through science, while we prove science wrong all the time and have throughout history. This news report is just another example of it.
So which is it, ''neither can be proven as a Law'', or are you changing your tune now to "some theories"?!

"Hedging your bets" won't hide the reality of being a 'closet Fundie'. Which is fine, except too bad you can't be more honest about it (considering the 9th Commandment, among others)!
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