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Old 03-22-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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a week or two ago commercial pilots got nervous when the spotted a small private drone in the air near JFK Airport.
A small private drone near KJFK does not neccesarily mean that any other aircraft are in danger.

Learn what spatial separation means, and then get back to me.

Harrier(wanted to be an air traffic controller - but caught the desire too late to meet the federal government's draconian age requirements).

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Old 03-22-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: texas
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I might be mistaken, but I don't think civilians are allowed to own B-52s or F-15s, either. At least not with all their systems functional.
i dont think all drones are loaded for war. these days, a old style gas model prop plane would be considered a drone.

these days guys are attaching cameras and flying them all over the place. I think the
FAA is worried about flying them in restricted air space like over airports or military installations.

I hope that Im not being to elementry...but I dont have a pilots licence and barely understand Beroulli's principle...


RC drone model - LWD1 Block I - YouTube
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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If you desire to let drones in restricted airspace around airports, I hope you get to experience the joy of what happens when one gets sucked into a jet engine while landing.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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If you desire to let drones in restricted airspace around airports, I hope you get to experience the joy of what happens when one gets sucked into a jet engine while landing.
Why do you assume that government drone operators would be any more proficient at preventing such an incident than a non-government operator?

If you really do wander about the aviation capital of the world(Seattle) this question should be a no-brainer.

Or maybe you live in Oz.
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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I bet you police state liberals are happy about this..I'm sure Bloomberg is
FAA says entrepreneurs can't operate drones, only police and military can
Well, the government is trying to make sure that we don't have guns but police and military do.

The government has made sure we have no more privacy. Online textbooks where the prof can tell how long a textbook has been open, what day, what time. In the workplace -- the employer knows just about everything about what you do during the work day. GPS? The government knows where you are. Smart Phone on your person? The government knows where you are.

And what's worse: we're just letting the government do all this.

“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.â€
Edward R. Murrow
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Well, the government is trying to make sure that we don't have guns but police and military do.

The government has made sure we have no more privacy. Online textbooks where the prof can tell how long a textbook has been open, what day, what time. In the workplace -- the employer knows just about everything about what you do during the work day. GPS? The government knows where you are. Smart Phone on your person? The government knows where you are.

And what's worse: we're just letting the government do all this.

“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.â€
Edward R. Murrow
What does this post have to do with allowing private citizens to have drones?
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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I bet you police state liberals are happy about this..I'm sure Bloomberg is

FAA says entrepreneurs can't operate drones, only police and military can
Whats the difference between a drone, and a remote control plane?

So people who fly remote planes for a hobby, will be violating the law?
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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a week or two ago commercial pilots got nervous when the spotted a small private drone in the air near JFK Airport.

There are some people who think that any restrictions on anything is a liberty infringement. This one makes sense.
The limits are just at the airport, but no surprise MTA is here to high 5 government restrictions.

Tell me MTA, why do you hate kids and not want them to have their toys?

Whats the difference between a toy, and a drone?
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Citizens can only have them if the law can prosecute them for what laws the drone violates. For example, let's say you have a sexy neighbor who sunbathes topless behind her privacy fence. Now lets say your drone hovers where it can shoot film. YOU the owner are guilty of lawbreaking if your drone does anything like that. Same as peering through her windows.
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Old 04-29-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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Citizens can only have them if the law can prosecute them for what laws the drone violates. For example, let's say you have a sexy neighbor who sunbathes topless behind her privacy fence. Now lets say your drone hovers where it can shoot film. YOU the owner are guilty of lawbreaking if your drone does anything like that. Same as peering through her windows.
If the FAA says you cant fly them without violating air space, then simply flying them would be violating air space. The FAA very much has legal authority to backup their rules they establish without even taking them to Congress.
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