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Old 03-26-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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Last night on my way home, I was listening to NPR and this story was broadcast.

The number of people receiving disability payments has skyrocketed, and the reporter brought up communities where as many as one out of four working-age adults received disability. When the percentage is that high, it has a marked economic impact on the community, but more than that, it suggests the economic health of the community has had a marked impact on disability applications. While I support disability payments for the truly disabled as a social safety net, I think if we use disability to sustain communities economically, then we need to determine if it's really viable to sustain those communities.

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I think it's being used as a gap for older workers to cover them between expired UE and SS.

The country is not doing well. Government statistics are modified monthly.
There are less people in the labor force now with the excuse that more are retiring.
Yet articles say younger workers can't get jobs because the older ones aren't retiring.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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Yeah this story showed up on google news this morning.

It mentioned how states hire companies to comb their welfare roles and find people who they can move off welfare and onto disability. A call center of phone banks seeking out potentially disabled people and asking questions like "Can you think of anything else that's been bothering you and disabling you and preventing you from working?"


Also notable was the part on child disability (from learning problems and dependent on poor school performance), where parents are torn between wanting their struggling child to succeed in school on the one hand, but not wanting the disability checks to stop coming on the other.

I was thoroughly depressed after reading that article, coming to grips with just how pathetic and destructive our welfare-state society is.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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I think it's being used as a gap for older workers to cover them between expired UE and SS.

The country is not doing well. Government statistics are modified monthly.
There are less people in the labor force now with the excuse that more are retiring.
Yet articles say younger workers can't get jobs because the older ones aren't retiring.

By the time you leave your last job and start collecting SS, you should have millions socked away and SS is just a "bonus".
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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I heard this story Saturday. Amazing - especially the part about kids being on disability and their parents depending on that money. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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By the time you leave your last job and start collecting SS, you should have millions socked away and SS is just a "bonus".
Well there are those that saved nothing and only have SS to look forward to.
We are a nation of CONSUMERS..buy, buy, buy, not a nation of savers.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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Yeah this story showed up on google news this morning.

It mentioned how states hire companies to comb their welfare roles and find people who they can move off welfare and onto disability. A call center of phone banks seeking out potentially disabled people and asking questions like "Can you think of anything else that's been bothering you and disabling you and preventing you from working?"


Also notable was the part on child disability (from learning problems and dependent on poor school performance), where parents are torn between wanting their struggling child to succeed in school on the one hand, but not wanting the disability checks to stop coming on the other.

I was thoroughly depressed after reading that article, coming to grips with just how pathetic and destructive our welfare-state society is.
Well that's great. For someone who actually is disabled and not in the safety net already you have to fight the system to get approved for disability and meanwhile that same system is moving people in the safety net from welfare over to disability for its own gain.

It does explain how the disability rolls are getting so high, though. Given the amount of paperwork, doctor recommendations, and medical records you have to go through to get on disability I was having a hard time understanding how there was massive fraud in the system. It is incredibly difficult to get disability. But that's if you are initiating a disability claim as a private citizen. If the government decides it wants you on disability I'm sure the process is a breeze.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:35 AM
 
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Well that's great. For someone who actually is disabled and not in the safety net already you have to fight the system to get approved for disability and meanwhile that same system is moving people in the safety net from welfare over to disability for its own gain.

It does explain how the disability rolls are getting so high, though. Given the amount of paperwork, doctor recommendations, and medical records you have to go through to get on disability I was having a hard time understanding how there was massive fraud in the system. It is incredibly difficult to get disability. But that's if you are initiating a disability claim as a private citizen. If the government decides it wants you on disability I'm sure the process is a breeze.
I doubt we would agree on what it means to be disabled to the point of not being capable of supporting oneself, but at least we can agree that the system is broken.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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I was thoroughly depressed after reading that article, coming to grips with just how pathetic and destructive our welfare-state society is.
Hey, you can probably get a check for that!
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default disability being used to address economic woes

I also heard that NPR broadcast on my way home last night.

People placed in desperate situations not of their own making will look for whatever way out they can find.

The corporate owners of America long ago decided to abandon the American workforce in favor of hiring Chinese commies. Displaced workers with little/no chance of finding employment when US facilities close will seek out alternatives. Like these folks did.
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