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Old 05-31-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Whenever I ate GMF, my stools became super fat and hard. Almost like giant cucumbers. They were hard to pass, but the odor was mild and it didn't stink like soft floating stools.
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Old 05-31-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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Whenever I ate GMF, my stools became super fat and hard. Almost like giant cucumbers. They were hard to pass, but the odor was mild and it didn't stink like soft floating stools.

You need a hobby.
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Old 05-31-2013, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I have a big problem with GMO seed. Monsanto has a patent on seed that's genetically modified so that Roundup won't kill the wheat and soybeans along with the weeds. Both those plants 'volunteer'- after planting, they will seed themselves the next year, and have the same Roundup resistance the original seed has.

Monsanto is trying to force farmers into buying only their seed, year after year. Farmers traditionally reserve some of the best of their harvest for seed stock. This cuts down the expense of purchasing new seed, and the variety of the seed stock is always the best that's suited for a particular farm in a particular region. The variety that Monsanto modified may not have other very desirable qualities, such as resistance to early freezing, that the farmers need.

Not all farmers want or use Roundup to control weeds. Many dry farmers use older methods of weed control, such as summer fallowing, where a piece of land is rested for a year and is only worked a few times with weeding implements, which tear weeds out by their roots mechanically.

Irrigated farms tend to be planted year after year with no resting for the soil, but the soil's fertility is maintained by rotating crops that are soil depleting with crops that are natural soil builders. Monsanto's GMO seed encourages over planting the depleting crops, which may be profitable for a while for the farmers, but is ultimately very bad.

If a piece of land is not allowed to rest and lie fallow, naturally regaining it's fertility, the use of fertilizers year after year ends up creating soil that is as naturally un-fertile as a desert. Once that happens, all that grows are weeds.

More importantly, once the natural varieties disappear, a new plant disease can spring up and wipe out a harvest completely. This was the cause of the Great Potato Famine in Ireland. The Irish grew dependent on potatoes for basic sustenance, and when their harvests failed, they starved.
While it might seem remote to us now, the very same thing could happen again here. Many of our most vital crops have been highly bred for huge bearing qualities, not disease resistance. They are similar to over-domesticated dogs who cannot breed without human assistance and cannot survive on their own.

This is the reason why apple farmers are now growing 'heritage' trees from seed stocks that have been carefully preserved. Apple crops have become increasingly vulnerable to diseases, changing weather patterns and insects. The heritage apple trees cross-polinate with the domesticated varieties and give their fruit natural resistance.

And, of course, none of us know what the effects of GMO crops will be on the human genome. Adding genetic modification may add a wild card into our own genetics, and the genetics of our domesticated animals, which we also depend on for food. GMO animal feed may bear huge crops, but may also cause birth defects or stillbirths in cattle, sheep, hogs, or chickens.
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Old 05-31-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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And, of course, none of us know what the effects of GMO crops will be on the human genome. Adding genetic modification may add a wild card into our own genetics, and the genetics of our domesticated animals, which we also depend on for food. GMO animal feed may bear huge crops, but may also cause birth defects or stillbirths in cattle, sheep, hogs, or chickens.
Face-eating cannibalism - blamed on pot.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:16 PM
 
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Mixed feelings.

On one hand it reduces the quality of the food. GMO fruits and veges don't taste nearly as good as the real thing and it bugs me alot. I know you can buy non GMO food but it's so damn expensive these days.

On the other hand its easier and cheaper to feed larger populations. Places like africa and some asian countries could benefit from GMO since people there are dying by the millions everyday from starvation
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Face-eating cannibalism - blamed on pot.
Who knows? You could be right! I seriously doubt Monsanto would ever find human volunteers for test subjects, but it seems they are all to willing to drop this possibility unawares on all of us. Ironicially, even the scientists who developed all that GMO could be victims.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:23 PM
 
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Who knows? You could be right! I seriously doubt Monsanto would ever find human volunteers for test subjects, but it seems they are all to willing to drop this possibility unawares on all of us. Ironicially, even the scientists who developed all that GMO could be victims.
When you're playing with that many wild cards in the deck, it's impossible to fault any one of them.

Worse than that, there is the Combinative Law.

It frees every poison from direct blame.
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Old 05-31-2013, 08:51 PM
 
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:10 PM
 
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Who knows? You could be right! I seriously doubt Monsanto would ever find human volunteers for test subjects, but it seems they are all to willing to drop this possibility unawares on all of us. Ironicially, even the scientists who developed all that GMO could be victims.
They don't have to find volunteers....WE are their test subjects....The scientists probably aren't eating it...they know better......MONSANTO CAFETERIA BANS GMO FOODS
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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That research will not be funded.
I think if the anti-GMO camp really thought they had science on their side, they'd fund it.
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