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Old 03-26-2013, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I would just like to know why liberals trust "government" as a concept more than "big business" as a concept. I am giving liberals far more ground here because I could have said that liberals trust the government more than business, but instead, I said "Big Business" which should allow liberals to present a far more convincing argument to trust "government" over "big business."

I'm willing to go tit-for-tat with liberals and name off atrocity after atrocity that government has performed, in turn liberals name atrocities that corporations have committed. I just don't know what about government has convinced the left that it has the propensity toward "good" while big business is bad. I mean think of the Holocaust, Khmer Rouge, Maoism, North Korea, Stalinism, etc...the list goes on of atrocities committed by governments.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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I didn't realize there was a difference between government and big business.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I didn't realize there was a difference between government and big business.
Rockefeller from the past, while making his monopolistic million$, saw to it that there isn't much difference to it now.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Mille Fin
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Why do liberals trust the notion of government more than big business?

given that business or commerce predates organized governance by thousands of years, and even apes are capable of basic barter, I'd wager any intelligent person would be inclined to uphold the supremacy of government over commerce i.e. ''trust the notion of government more than big business'', regardless of their political background.

You do realize successfully managing a first-world country constitutes a far greater achievement than successfully running a business, RIGHT?

Or are you so sycophantic as to not realize this ?

In reality, I think your title is just poorly phrased.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:39 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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I would guess because in Government, the "little people" have a hope to change things via elections.

Yet Big Business can do whatever they want, and if they're not allowed to do so, they do it anyways without much if any oversight. Then when they get caught they spread a little money around say "oops, my bad," and do it again?

But to answer your real question, many Liberals don't trust the government either. They just prefer to work within the frame work that we have instead of circumventing procedures and processes.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:40 PM
 
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I didn't realize there was a difference between government and big business.
Is that what you were saying when Obama wanted BP to set aside $20 billion to pay for the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico?

No, I didn't think so.

Is that we're you were saying while Obama was demeaning doctors and insurance companies during the healthcare reform "debate?"

No, I didn't think so.

Is that what you were saying when Obama was demeaning banks, Wallstreet and "fat cats?"

No, I didn't think so.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:54 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Why do liberals trust the notion of government more than big business?


Because liberals ARE government. And many of them couldn't run a business if their life depended on it.

They find it much easier to simply order someone to do something, and pay for it with Other People's Money, and then blame someone else when it falls apart (as liberal schemes usually do). All these things are characteristic of government... especially liberal govenment, that gets involved in every possible aspect of everyone's formerly-private lives.

But meeting the responsibility of making a business pay for itself, meeting a payroll week after week, persuading others to back a good business venture, etc.... you won't find our liberal fanatics anywhere near such things. They flat can't handle them... and so they trash those who can, for the purpose of deflecting attention from their own incompetence at ventures that really matter.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:56 PM
 
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Is that what you were saying when Obama wanted BP to set aside $20 billion to pay for the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico?

No, I didn't think so.

Is that we're you were saying while Obama was demeaning doctors and insurance companies during the healthcare reform "debate?"

No, I didn't think so.

Is that what you were saying when Obama was demeaning banks, Wallstreet and "fat cats?"

No, I didn't think so.
If giving a trillion in bailout money is demeaning, then I want to be demeaned, and bad.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Why do liberals trust the notion of government more than big business?

given that business or commerce predates organized governance by thousands of years, and even apes are capable of basic barter, I'd wager any intelligent person would be inclined to uphold the supremacy of government over commerce i.e. ''trust the notion of government more than big business'', regardless of their political background.

You do realize successfully managing a first-world country constitutes a far greater achievement than successfully running a business, RIGHT?

Or are you so sycophantic as to not realize this ?

In reality, I think your title is just poorly phrased.
Most intelligent people study history and some, still living, have witnessed the atrocities committed by "government." Tell me why someone should trust an entity that counts the Khmer Rouge and Nazism in its fold, over Walmart and Costco.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:14 PM
 
Location: ABQ
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Why trust either?
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