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Old 03-27-2013, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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See attached graph: Note that the standard-of-living in most of the countries above the US in these two bar graphs is considered better than that found in the US and that the US has far more poverty and income inequality than these other countries - and, in terms of democratic freedom, most of these countries are more democratic with more real freedoms.... We're the only developed country with this rabid, anti-tax madness.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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See attached graph: Note that the standard-of-living in most of the countries above the US in these two bar graphs is considered better than that found in the US and that the US has far more poverty and income inequality than these other countries - and, in terms of democratic freedom, most of these countries are more democratic with more real freedoms.... We're the only developed country with this rabid, anti-tax madness.
Funny, Bill "uber liberal and hates all conservatives" Maher doesn't seem to agree. How about we attack the REAL PROBLEM by cutting the actual spending, instead of cutting future spending and passing it off as a reduction in spending. Then, maybe we could be a beacon to the world again. Show the EU how to run a country without stealing from the labor force, or raiding bank accounts.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:30 AM
 
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See attached graph: Note that the standard-of-living in most of the countries above the US in these two bar graphs is considered better than that found in the US and that the US has far more poverty and income inequality than these other countries - and, in terms of democratic freedom, most of these countries are more democratic with more real freedoms.... We're the only developed country with this rabid, anti-tax madness.
Yet millions of impoverished people are pouring over the borders because being poor in the USA beats living in their own country or trying to improve it. The USA is importing poverty.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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See attached graph: Note that the standard-of-living in most of the countries above the US in these two bar graphs is considered better than that found in the US and that the US has far more poverty and income inequality than these other countries - and, in terms of democratic freedom, most of these countries are more democratic with more real freedoms.... We're the only developed country with this rabid, anti-tax madness.
You need to quit reading fairy tales. Either that or move there. I'm
Sure you'd fit right in.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:33 AM
 
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and how exactly is importing poverty a good thing?

clearly it's not, but perversely it does benefit the short sighted rich.

and for all anti-taxers: who will pay for the infrastructure?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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Yet millions of impoverished people are pouring over the borders because being poor in the USA beats living in their own country or trying to improve it. The USA is importing poverty.
The impoverished people coming into the US aren't coming from OECD countries like those shown on the graph, they are coming from Central America where poverty and violence are widespread. And, in case you weren't aware, immigration into the US is declining because we aren't nearly as appealing of a destination as we used to be. The countries receiving the most immigration from the developing world now are European - Spain, Germany, the UK, France, Italy. Add to that a few upper-middle income countries like Russia, Turkey, Brazil, Argentina and Chile... and, of course, China... those are the countries immigrants are heading to in droves now (though the problems with the Eurozone may make Europe less appealing if the Germans don't get off their damn pedestal and stop forcing austerity and SAP-like conditionality agreements on the EU's smaller members....
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Warren County and loving it!
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I simply don't like that I work for 7 days per month for free. That's too much.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:14 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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I simply don't like that I work for 7 days per month for free. That's too much.
You don't work for free. Your tax money goes to funding your state's public sector and infrastructure. Roads don't fix themselves. Stop lights don't function on their own. Teachers/ firefighters don't work for free.

Our infrastructure is a crumbling mess because we're undertaxed.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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The fundamental premise is undeniable. Every other country worth living in has a higher tax rate than us. This GOP is selling sheep dip as usual.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:36 AM
 
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See attached graph: Note that the standard-of-living in most of the countries above the US in these two bar graphs is considered better than that found in the US and that the US has far more poverty and income inequality than these other countries - and, in terms of democratic freedom, most of these countries are more democratic with more real freedoms.... We're the only developed country with this rabid, anti-tax madness.
Your statistics are deliberately chosen to skew it towards the liberal point of view.

For instance, notice your chart on the left only talks about "corporate income taxes" and ignores that many corporations pay a whole host of other taxes that are not related to income.




In a September 2011 report, the Tax Foundation summarized the findings of the latest 13 studies of effective corporate tax rates across the world. Due to different methodologies, those studies determined U.S. effective tax rates ranging from 23 percent to 34.9 percent, according to the report.

The United States did not rank first in any of those studies, but in 10 of them, U.S. effective rates ranked among the top five highest for the countries analyzed, the report states. However, the effective rate in Japan will likely drop, possibly moving the United States to the top spot in future studies......

....But the U.S. hit the top spot in a more recent report. Morrison told us the latest such comparison was made in September 2012 for the libertarian Cato Institute. That report calculated the U.S. effective rate at 35.6 percent and ranked it highest among OECD nations but fourth among all 90 nations it examined.


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