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Old 03-29-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The new case may be Maryland's (non)issuance of CCWs. A lower Court ruling directing the State to revamp its process to be less onerous and exclusive was just overturned by another Court and MD is back to "may issue".
Might also be that case or the case from Illinois Moore v Madigan. We currently have a circuit split so it is a good chance SCOTUS will take one of the cases.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:13 PM
 
Location: WA
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my family and I will never go along with those schemes, and some states shall not go along with them either.
I would rather be considered a criminal than give up a right. when the gun control crowd goes too far, they will find out from an armed populace what it finally means to cross that line in the sand.

then the words they will be saying is "oh ****!"
I frankly thought that if any state would assert its defiance in the face of anti-gun federal legislation, it would be mine (I live in Montana).

Our governor, a hack Democratic party w#ore if ever there was one, vetoed a bill just yesterday that would have prohibited the enforcement of any ban on semi-automatic rifles within the state. After having edged his way into office on his predecessor's coattails last November, this SOB will certainly not receive my vote in 2016, nor will any Democratic legislator who runs for re-election in my district (none of the Dems in our legislature voted in favor of HB 302's passage).

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013...otection-bill/
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Yeah we moved on to Gay Marriage.

Apparently it is more important than the slaughter of innocent kindergartners.
Well, come up with some real solutions that might actually work and maybe the public won't throw them in the trash bin where they belong.

And BTW, innocent children are slaughtered every day throughout the world. Where is your outrage on that? It's phony outrage you have, thats it.

Obamas drones have killed more innocent children than any "assault weapon" in this country ever will. Where is your outrage about that?

The anti gun crowd is filled with phonies, who have phony outrage.



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I agree--just because gun ownership has found itsef standing on very strong political footing for the last decade or so, it doesn't mean that such an environment is indefinite (the political activity observed over the last three months has illustrated very clearly that our 2A rights remain extremely vulnerable).

Do not forget the 30-or-so days that followed Newtown, when on a daily basis it was made very clear by certain factions of the media and political classes (not to mention a slew of morons here on City-Data) that firearm registration (under the guise of "universal background checks), confiscation, stringent licensing requirements, fingerprinting, ammunition limitations, psychological screening, mandatory insurance possession, mandatory buybacks, etc., are the central characteristics of the gun control camp's agenda.

These tyrants aren't going anywhere, people--suppressing them is only going to get harder (yet remains very possible).
They won't be happy until we have laws similar to that of Australia, maybe not even then.

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my family and I will never go along with those schemes, and some states shall not go along with them either.
I would rather be considered a criminal than give up a right. when the gun control crowd goes too far, they will find out from an armed populace what it finally means to cross that line in the sand.

then the words they will be saying is "oh ****!"
Yeah..... I hear ya. I just doubt that most Americans care enough abut their freedom enough to actualy stand up for it. The ones that do will be swiftly shot and killed by the ATF agents and labeled as nutjob radicals on nightly news at 11.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:10 PM
 
Location: WA
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They won't be happy until we have laws similar to that of Australia, maybe not even then.
Yes, it's really rather interesting that the anti-gun fundies will glorify Australia'a 1996 National Firearms Agreement as a legislative model for the United States whilst simultaneously deriding us as "paranoid" for believing that anyone wants to remove firearms from private ownership under legal status-quos.

And if that weren't enough, we've been treated to our very own domestic media outlets providing a revolting, neocon pig like John Howard a platform to blatantly advocate the disarmament of U.S. citizens (but then again, what else would you expect from the New York Times?).

Here's the cretinous pig in his very own words (just in case anyone missed it):

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/op...-too.html?_r=0
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:58 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I frankly thought that if any state would assert its defiance in the face of anti-gun federal legislation, it would be mine (I live in Montana).

Our governor, a hack Democratic party w#ore if ever there was one, vetoed a bill just yesterday that would have prohibited the enforcement of any ban on semi-automatic rifles within the state. After having edged his way into office on his predecessor's coattails last November, this SOB will certainly not receive my vote in 2016, nor will any Democratic legislator who runs for re-election in my district (none of the Dems in our legislature voted in favor of HB 302's passage).

Montana Governor Lies About the Constitution, Vetoes 2nd Amendment Protection Bill – Tenth Amendment Center


actually, the state that i think is more firearm friendly than any other, and over every other state is also the least populace in the USA as well.


my brother is planning on moving his firearm accessories business there to someplace called medicine bow. he makes the springs for magazines.




Wyoming
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Old 03-30-2013, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Maine
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That's unfortunate. We have severe problems in this country with gun violence and the gun control measures should only be the tip of the iceberg. We have to change our entire culture as it pertains to our outlook on guns and violence and murder. Gun control is the bandaid while the major work gets started.

Sadly, like most things with this country, we get locked in BS arguments and turn everything into political nonsense and we don't get better as a society.
Here's a couple of idea's for the Liberals to consider.
Secret police, Middle of the night raids with black hoods, permanent martial law, re-education camps, death camps.
These ideas have been used in the past, which is why us gun owners will not give in to you ever!



bill
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:00 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Here's a couple of idea's for the Liberals to consider.
Secret police, Middle of the night raids with black hoods, permanent martial law, re-education camps, death camps.
These ideas have been used in the past, which is why us gun owners will not give in to you ever!



bill


lefties dont care, they say sensible gun control and what they mean is that all firearms will be confiscated.
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:41 PM
 
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Don't lull yourself in to a false sense of security Mac.... Thats about like saying "oh, theres no way Obama is going to win again after the cluster**** of his first term, I'm not going to go vote"
Well now i didn't say that i was sure the grabbers would quit, but i am not going to bother with more of their paper tiger laws which are not enforced, just like Biden's ban of 1994, which did nothing.

More over even IF, which will never happen, some fool of a Official were to come looking for trouble he certainly would find it, as by the CONS it is my duty to stop him from breaking the law. DUTY!

These pin heads creating or wanting to create these laws are nothing more that trash, traitors that should have been locked up and the keys thrown away 55 years ago.

Our family's didn't send men off to WW-1 WW-2 korea Nam and the damned sand box for this BS coming out of DC, and or to suffer sick PC scams and illegal policy. As far as i am concerned the PC experiment has FAILED and ain't no body equal..

It's just a matter of time before this failed system with it bad economy implodes.

Also no poly tic will make a move before mid terms.... and the last 2 year 0 has won't be enough time. The only thing 0 can do is declare marshal law and try for term 3 and to be king

If he makes that move for king all the rules change.......
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:12 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Well now i didn't say that i was sure the grabbers would quit, but i am not going to bother with more of their paper tiger laws which are not enforced, just like Biden's ban of 1994, which did nothing.

More over even IF, which will never happen, some fool of a Official were to come looking for trouble he certainly would find it, as by the CONS it is my duty to stop him from breaking the law. DUTY!

These pin heads creating or wanting to create these laws are nothing more that trash, traitors that should have been locked up and the keys thrown away 55 years ago.

Our family's didn't send men off to WW-1 WW-2 korea Nam and the damned sand box for this BS coming out of DC, and or to suffer sick PC scams and illegal policy. As far as i am concerned the PC experiment has FAILED and ain't no body equal..

It's just a matter of time before this failed system with it bad economy implodes.

Also no poly tic will make a move before mid terms.... and the last 2 year 0 has won't be enough time. The only thing 0 can do is declare marshal law and try for term 3 and to be king

If he makes that move for king all the rules change.......

my dad who was in WWII, Korea and Vietnam always used to tell us kids that they went to europe to get rid of the socialist and fascists there and when they came back to the USA they forgot to get rid of the socialists that were already imbedded in the USA.

mom used to say that the best thing about fdr's tenure was when he passed away.
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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FRD was a common crook and dictator. The country is still reeling from that and ever since we have been in a state of energency, withb the ooss of the economy then and the gold std with it.

Most of these loons on the left the PC have never once held a dollar in their hands but if you tell and let on they look at you like you have 2 heads.

There is very little of any real value to be had in the land anymore.. You can drop a easy 200 debt notes in a wally world and walk out poorer than you walked in. But now i am preaching to the choir.. You know this with out me telling you....

I did learn i am older than you. What was your dad in the service so long for?

My dad was in WW-2 and then in occupied japan, and was sort of stuck in and out of private mil orgs in terms of electronics past retirement into death......

The feds didn't want Pops to go.... I can almost suspect the same in your case.

I even wonder in we may have know some of the same peoples.. Bomac / Raytheon / Rayovac mean anything to you?
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