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Old 10-27-2007, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I'm a registered Conservatine living just outside of NYC. It SUCKS! I hate all the liberalism here and that's why I'm moving soon. I really don't know why I've stayed here as long as I have. I have NO representation in gov. at all. Can't wait to move to the REAL America and get away from socialism central.
Sounds like Wyoming or Alaska would suit your political views better. Personally, I prefer Alaska. We are separate enough, both physically and mentallity, to be completely indifferent to the mess you lower-48ers put yourself in on a regular basis.
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:30 PM
 
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A liberal would have an awful time trying to live with the backward, conservative attitudes in Tulsa, Oklahoma. This is the place that went big time again for President Bush in 2004, even though Tulsa went through an awful recession during the first term of Bush.

And the awful, disgusting Christian right hypocrisy in Tulsa is also
difficult for a liberal to deal with.
Tulsa is more liberal than some other parts of the state, though. Most cities are more liberal, otherwise they wouldn't work as cities, which require alot of cooperation and shared property for the public good. There are more liberal enclaves there and I thought the Tulsa World's editorial staff were somewhat left leaning. There are plenty of closet atheists/agnostics and lots of people that are closer to being "libertarian" rather than conservatives. A liberal could feel comfortable there, as long as they were "open-minded". You know, being approached by a mega-church disciple at a Burger King was a new one for me, but at least he was polite when I told him "no thanks".

My old Grandma in west Tulsa (down toward Sand Springs) hates Bush as much as anybody in San Francisco or some other liberal enclave. But then she is a Roosevelt Democrat. The other side of the family in Tulsa, well, they used to love him but I think they only voted for him grudgingly.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Your mind
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I'm a registered Conservatine living just outside of NYC. It SUCKS! I hate all the liberalism here and that's why I'm moving soon. I really don't know why I've stayed here as long as I have. I have NO representation in gov. at all. Can't wait to move to the REAL America and get away from socialism central.
Seems like a weird reason to move.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:16 AM
 
Location: NY
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Sounds like Wyoming or Alaska would suit your political views better. Personally, I prefer Alaska. We are separate enough, both physically and mentallity, to be completely indifferent to the mess you lower-48ers put yourself in on a regular basis.
Bingo!! LOL! I've visited Alaska once and it's beautiful and an amazing place. Just a little too cold for me though. I've spent some time in Wyoming and LOVE it there. I've searched and recearched and it's either Wyoming or western Nebraska. Can't wait till next summer when I'll be visiting these areas to help choose.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:17 AM
 
Location: NY
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Seems like a weird reason to move.
It's not the only reason but one of the big ones. Congestion, humidity, crime are other main reasons.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:23 AM
 
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You will like Wyoming, jeepejeep. I lived several years in Cheyenne, really nice little city. Wide open spaces, clean, conservative, friendly, etc. Watch the wind though, it can get rough!
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:07 PM
 
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Nope anyone that acts and speaks against traditional American values is not part of the real America. Not anyone that disagrees with me personally. ALL the liberals sound more and more socialist.
That's my point, jeepyboy. Who gets to say what defines "traditional american values"? You? Dissent is American. Dissent is very patriotic. It's one of those things that makes us great.
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:12 PM
 
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That's my point, jeepyboy. Who gets to say what defines "traditional american values"? You? Dissent is American. Dissent is very patriotic. It's one of those things that makes us great.
Well one thing I know for sure is that socialism is not an American value!
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:15 PM
 
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That's my point, jeepyboy. Who gets to say what defines "traditional american values"? You? Dissent is American. Dissent is very patriotic. It's one of those things that makes us great.
Unless your dissent is in FAVOR of traditional american values, then you are shouted down and/or must be equalized by the opposing view, as with the Fairness Bill.
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Well one thing I know for sure is that socialism is not an American value!
!? I'm somewhat Socialist, and I consider my views very American, thanks.
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