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Old 04-01-2013, 08:31 PM
 
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Exactly. I would agree to civil unions between any two people, maybe even more, this could be used in a variety of other situations also allowing certain legal rights and benefits for those individuals. They want it called "marriage" because many have a complex and were brought up to believe the lifestyle that they are living is a sin and even if they don't, a lot of those people around them do. Unfortunately, changing the laws of man will not change the laws of God. Marriage is between a man and a woman. They will continue to insist upon the term marriage because they believe it will normalize their activities/lifestyles. Seriously, has anyone heard an argument for why the agenda demands the word "marriage" if rights would be the same because I haven't.

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Nope that is not it at all. Gay couples want to have and to demonstrate the same level of commitment to their spouses through the ritual of marriage that their heterosexual counterparts enjoy, as well as to have the same legal and financial protections others have. Whether or not you believe it is right to bring your religious views into the issue is irrelevant to the legality of the issue. And whether the laws of man will or will not change the laws (whatever they may be) of your god is also not the issue. You don't get to force your religious beliefs on anybody. The constitution says you don't. The morality of gay bonding is between those who partake and their god, whatever that may be. "Judge not lest ye be judged."
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:40 PM
 
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I know of no Christians that treat gays with disrespect. Did you know that God created all of us? God loves the homosexual but not the act... two complete different things.. If your loved one was using drugs would you love the drugs ? Gay sex is perverted. That is a fact. God does not approve of gay sex. A man can love another man but when they have sex it is a perversion. Same with a woman and another woman.

Next it will be a phedophile or threesome or some other perversion that people will be bombarded with calling the phedophile a second class citizen. Perversion is not natural as God intended.
So what was god's purpose of creating gays. He loves them but doesn't like the act...but god created the act if he created gays.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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Right, because heterosexuals NEVER engage in sodomy......
Specifically sodomy refers to the homosexual act. It comes from the name of the city where Lot and his family lived and it refers to the acts of the inhabitants of the city.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:37 PM
 
Location: San Marcos, TX
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Sodomy is a sex act between two men.
1) You are conveniently minimizing the sins of the people of Sodom that were the point of the story to fit your idea of the definition of the word, and ignoring the fact that the word "sodomy" has a different definition in a secular context.

Real Meaning of Sodomy

“Sodomy” – a Biblical Word Study that Might Surprise You | New West Anglican Blog



2) Your religious beliefs, or mine, or anyone elses have absolutely nothing to do with marriage rights.

3) Marriage has been "re-defined" over and over and over.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:44 PM
 
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All this god talk has no bearing on this issue at all. God/religion has NO place in public policy nor govt. It doesn't matter what god supposedly said. It's a red herring meant to delay and distract from the real issue. If god doesn't want gays to marry, he'll come down here and install himself as supreme leader to stop it from happening. Until such time, the rest of us wish to see the day that all adults have the ability to marry who they love, with no regard to the sex of the persons involved.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:46 PM
 
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So you are cool with lesbians getting married?

Also, anal ain't just a gay thing.
No. There's no such thing as a two men or a two women marriage.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:53 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Not just that in any dictionary except yours.

I guess you have never touched your wife's vagina with anything other than your penis, and she NEVER touched your penis, and ONLY had sex when you were planning on having a child, AND when it was her cycle time you or her slept in a different room?
Hehe.... foreplay is half the fun! It definitely enhances the mood!
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No. There's no such thing as a two men or a two women marriage.
There is in a number of states now, you just live under a rock with your close-minded religious views. Are you worried someone will force you to get a gay marriage and have gay sex?
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:02 PM
 
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Can the word game nonsense and stop using it as an excuse to deny tax paying Americans equal rights under the law. Saying there should be a separate word that means the same thing is making black people use the colored drinking fountain. What? They were perfectly good drinking fountains right?
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:10 PM
 
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Specifically sodomy refers to the homosexual act. It comes from the name of the city where Lot and his family lived and it refers to the acts of the inhabitants of the city.
Let's be clear on what sodomy is with regard to the law, shall we?

Sodomy laws in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Sodomy laws in the United States, which outlawed a variety of sexual acts, were historically universal. While they often targeted sexual acts between persons of the same sex[citation needed], many statutes employed definitions broad enough to outlaw certain sexual acts between persons of different sexes as well, sometimes even acts between married persons.

Through the 20th century, the gradual liberalization of American sexual mores led to the elimination of sodomy laws in most states. During this time, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of sodomy laws in Bowers v. Hardwick in 1986. However, in 2003 the Supreme Court reversed the decision with Lawrence v. Texas, invalidating sodomy laws in the remaining fourteen states (Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Virginia).
More at the link.
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