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Old 03-31-2013, 03:03 PM
 
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Your only allowed to talk about something if it is your job?

Why are you here talking about SSM? Aint your job.
No, it has to do with my life, and my equal rights.

 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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It must suck for you to be on the wrong side of history.
lol oh. As if that is supposed to mean something. How awful it is for us to have our own views and beliefs...

Because a minority of people who already have equal rights as man, want to bastardize marriage instead of pushing for unions, everyone who opposes just needs to shut it right? Why are you, the minority, the ones who now get to say what marriage is and what restrictions there are? YOU want it changed yet you also want to now be the one who says a different type of marriage would be absurd? What is absurd is redefining marriage in the first place. What's absurd is pretending a man and woman is some how the same as a man and a man.
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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No, it has to do with my life, and my equal rights.
Hate to break it to you. It doesn't have to do with "rights".

It has to do with getting government benefits.

And again, how am I on the wrong side of history?
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:13 PM
 
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No, it has to do with my life, and my equal rights.
Last I checked, you as a man has the same rights as anyone else. You can marry the woman of your choice. You have all other rights I have.

Tell me why cousins shouldn't get to redefine marriage if you get to redefine it?
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:14 PM
 
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Because a minority of people who already have equal rights as man, want to bastardize marriage instead of pushing for unions, everyone who opposes just needs to shut it right? Why are you, the minority, the ones who now get to say what marriage is and what restrictions there are? YOU want it changed yet you also want to now be the one who says a different type of marriage would be absurd? What is absurd is redefining marriage in the first place. What's absurd is pretending a man and woman is some how the same as a man and a man.
Um, we don't have equal rights. And we are pushing for legal unions - it just so happens that in our civil, secular law we call unions "marriages." Why should I be punished and denied equal rights because of other's homophobia and sensitivity about a word?
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:14 PM
 
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Hate to break it to you. It doesn't have to do with "rights".

It has to do with getting government benefits.

And again, how am I on the wrong side of history?
You are spot on but they and the media dont want to actually talk about facts. Its all stupid rhetoric by those pushing it
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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Last I checked, you as a man has the same rights as anyone else. You can marry the woman of your choice. You have all other rights I have.

Tell me why cousins shouldn't get to redefine marriage if you get to redefine it?
I'm a woman, and I don't have the same rights as a man to marry the woman of my choice.
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:16 PM
 
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Last I checked, you as a man has the same rights as anyone else. You can marry the woman of your choice. You have all other rights I have.

Tell me why cousins shouldn't get to redefine marriage if you get to redefine it?
I'm a woman, and I don't have the same rights as a man to marry the woman of my choice.

If cousins want to marry, they can in several states. Their marriage is recognized by the federal government.
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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Um, we don't have equal rights. And we are pushing for legal unions - it just so happens that in our civil, secular law we call unions "marriages." Why should I be punished and denied equal rights because of other's homophobia and sensitivity about a word?
You are not losing out on any rights. You are losing out on benefits. That needs to be taken up with the government, to allow civil unions the same benefits. There is no right issue
 
Old 03-31-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Hate to break it to you. It doesn't have to do with "rights".

It has to do with getting government benefits.

And again, how am I on the wrong side of history?
And the constitution says that ALL citizens have the right to equal protection of the laws. Also that no state can abridge the rights, or privileges of an American citizen.
Either way. If you say marriage is a right, as the USSC has said many times, then the government can not deny me access without compelling state interest. If marriage is a privilege, then the same.

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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