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Old 04-03-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Exactly.

Thanks for making my point.

Connecticut can do what it damn well pleases about guns, despite the bleating on that thread about "Constitutional rights."

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Old 04-03-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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A constitutional doctrine whereby selected provisions of the Bill of Rights are made applicable to the states through the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

The doctrine of selective incorporation, or simply the incorporation doctrine, makes the first ten amendments to the Constitution—known as the Bill of Rights—binding on the states. Through incorporation, state governments largely are held to the same standards as the federal government with regard to many constitutional rights, including the First Amendment freedoms of speech, religion, and assembly, and the separation of church and state; the Fourth Amendment freedoms from unwarranted arrest and unreasonable searches and seizures; the fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination; and the Sixth Amendment right to a speedy, fair, and public trial. Some provisions of the Bill of Rights—including the requirement of indictment by a Grand Jury (Sixth Amendment) and the right to a jury trial in civil cases (Seventh Amendment)—have not been applied to the states through the incorporation doctrine.
Incorporation (Bill of Rights legal definition of Incorporation (Bill of Rights. Incorporation (Bill of Rights synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.)
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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The first amendment states that congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. As recently as 1994 the Supreme Court has upheld the position that state and local government face the same restrictions. Before you go on a rant about how the Constitution doesn't mention states, let me remind you that our courts work under the doctrine of stare decisis--that court decisions and previous case law sets precedents that must be followed, and that rulings by higher courts supersede decisions by lower courts.

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No, the Supreme Courts position is that the states cant FUND one particular religion over another.

We have a national cathedral, but its not government funded..

Washington National Cathedral
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The process through which our laws are passed, is taught at the 5th grade level. Its hard to take people seriously who claim to be old enough to be posting here, but doesnt have a 5th grade education.
Then take you complaints about this to a thread under "education."
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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so what would a state religion mean?

Would it mean that my tax dollars will support a non-governmental political organization?
No
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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Then take you complaints about this to a thread under "education."
I'm not the one complaining, you are.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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If NC made a state religion, could they make state laws based on that religion. For example, could they make a law against homosexuality, coveting they neighbors car, etc..?
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:52 AM
 
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We have a national cathedral, but its not government funded..

Washington National Cathedral
And it's only "national" in name - I could call myself the National ArchPriest if I wanted to, put it on my business cards, pay for an announcement in the Times, but it doesn't actually make me Pope of America.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:54 AM
 
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So I take it you'd be fine with a state banning guns? What's that, no? Incorporation of the bill of rights only applies to the parts of it that allow you to establish a theocracy where the citizens are armed to the teeth?
More inane arguments. The 2nd A is a Constitutional Right spelled out in the Constitution of the USA. State religions are exactly that. STATE'S RIGHTS. Two completely different things.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Looks like everyone in NC will be required to own at least one snake and bring it to church on Sunday to be lovingly petted and handled.
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