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Old 04-03-2013, 08:45 AM
 
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From Interpretation 324.2 (b), the INS clearly states that each delineation, “naturalized, native, or natural-born citizen“, is a separate status. I have noticed there are a lot of Obama supporters who insist that a native-born Citizen is the same as a natural-born Citizen. Well, that is not true and this is the proof that they are not. This proves that native-born and natural-born are NOT synonymous. You will see that the official recognition by the federal government is that native-born and natural-born should be separately delineated.




If you recall in 2008 on Obama's own campaign website Fight The Smears, it stated:


'The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.'

Does Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution specifically call for a native born Citizen to be president? No it does not. It states:

'No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;....'

It's amazing that Obama admitted in plain sight on his own website that he was never eligible to meet the constitutional requirement to be president.

Interpretation 324.2 Reacquisition of citizenship lost by marriage.



The Immigration and Naturalization Service:

“Interpretation 324.2 Reacquisition of citizenship lost by marriage.”
Interpretation 324.2(a)(7):

“(7) Restoration of citizenship is prospective . Restoration to citizenship under any one of the three statutes is not regarded as having erased the period of alienage that immediately preceded it.

The words “shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922″, as they appeared in the 1936 and 1940 statutes, are prospective and restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen as of the date citizenship was reacquired.”

Interpretation 324.2:
“The effect of naturalization under the above statutes was not to erase the previous period of alienage, but to restore the person to the status IF NATURALIZED, NATIVE, OR NATURAL-BORN CITIZEN, as determined by her status prior to loss.”

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Old 04-03-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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From Interpretation 324.2 (b), the INS clearly states that each delineation, “naturalized, native, or natural-born citizen“, is a separate status. I have noticed there are a lot of Obama supporters on who insist that a native-born Citizen is the same as a natural-born Citizen. Well, that is not true and this is the proof that they are not. This proves that native-born and natural-born are NOT synonymous. You will see that the official recognition by the federal government is that native-born and natural-born should be separately delineated.




If you recall in 2008 on Obama's own campaign website Fight The Smears, it stated:


'The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.'

Does Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution specifically call for a native born Citizen to be president? No it does not. It states:

'No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;....'
It's amazing that Obama admitted in plain sight on his own website that he was never eligible to meet the constitutional requirement to be president.

Interpretation 324.2 Reacquisition of citizenship lost by marriage.



The Immigration and Naturalization Service:

“Interpretation 324.2 Reacquisition of citizenship lost by marriage.”
Interpretation 324.2(a)(7):

“(7) Restoration of citizenship is prospective . Restoration to citizenship under any one of the three statutes is not regarded as having erased the period of alienage that immediately preceded it.

The words “shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922″, as they appeared in the 1936 and 1940 statutes, are prospective and restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen as of the date citizenship was reacquired.”

Interpretation 324.2:
“The effect of naturalization under the above statutes was not to erase the previous period of alienage, but to restore the person to the status IF NATURALIZED, NATIVE, OR NATURAL-BORN CITIZEN, as determined by her status prior to loss.”
We get it, he's black.
 
Old 04-03-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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We get it, he's black.
Obama's race has nothing to do with the thread. Leave it up to a liberal to play the race card.
 
Old 04-03-2013, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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Blah, blah, blah. He was born in Hawaii. He was born an American citizen. The courts agree. He is eligible to be president. Get over it. I don't understand why an old army soldier would be so hell-bent on undermining his own president.
 
Old 04-03-2013, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Sorry, this is not a 'gotcha'.
Native-born is a subset of natural-born. Obama is natural-born because he was born a US citizen and also native-born because he was born in the USA. McCain was born in Panama and therefore is only natural-born not native-born. Similarly Canadian-born Ted Cruz is just a natural-born not native-born citizen.
 
Old 04-03-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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OP...you must be a blast at cocktail parties where an individual's ability to speak on a diversity of topics is key.

(yawn)
 
Old 04-03-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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We get it, he's black.
No, he's half white.
 
Old 04-03-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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All native born citizens are natural born citizens. Not all natural born citizens are native born citizens.

That's the only difference... and it does not help you.
 
Old 04-03-2013, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No, he's half white.
So how does that warrant a "No?"

 
Old 04-03-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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All native born citizens are natural born citizens.
Not true at all.
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