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Old 04-03-2013, 04:56 PM
 
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Rest of America to birther maniacs: scoreboard!

2008 Popular*vote Obama 69,498,516 McCain 59,948,323

2012 Popular*vote Obama 65,907,213 Romney 60,931,767
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Old 04-03-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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Rest of America to birther maniacs: scoreboard!
don't forget legal:

birther wins: 0

birther loses: 201

pending: 6
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Old 04-03-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: NC
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The argument is over and done, and you have lost. What is it that you expect to accomplish at this point?
To waste people's time using the internet?
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's all fun and games until someone needlesly makes it a racial issue.....

had to happen I guess....

Don't ask the question if you aren't prepared for truthful answers.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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EXACTLY !!! It's not about who won or lost, it's about far more important issues such as who is to pick what law or part of The Constitution to ignore while falsely gaining power. Only stupidity lets a person ignore the clear choice on this issue. Facts are what they are. And the given "facts" do not add up to being truthful. ?
The thing is though, no one is listening to you "truth" seekers anymore. No one takes you seriously. Even if you find that breakthrough you are looking for, no one cares at this point. The fact is, that if there were a breakthrough to be found, it would have been already. What are you going to do? Continue this crusade right up until his last day in office?

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you've never answered my question of why you believe mccain and romney, with a combined war chest of $1.5billion, didn't pursue a legal challenge to obama's eligibility?
They are in on the conspiracy..... Their campaigns were staged and they were always meant to lose from the get go....

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Now, I doubt that these people are making all that much money, .
Don't forget that Donald Trump was a birther.,.....

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Don't ask the question if you aren't prepared for truthful answers.
Your answer isn't based on anything that qualifies as truth. Rather, it's predicated on the belief that any disagreement with Obama by a white person, is absolutely and unequivically rooted in that persons racism.... I find this ideology to be pitiful and perhaps ironicly, racist in itself. Far worse than any birther.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:20 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I realize Birfers interpret law differently than just about anyone else with a central nervous system, so I'll just give you a piece of stylistic advice: The word "clearly" is either redundant or untrue. Using it twice in one paragraph telegraphs that you're aware that your position isn't all that well-backed.
I'm quite sure it's backed:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/28972895-post2425.html
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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you've never answered my question of why you believe mccain and romney, with a combined war chest of $1.5billion, didn't pursue a legal challenge to obama's eligibility?
McCain's eligibility is also doubtful. Recall the non-binding Congressional Referendum opining his eligibility?

I'm sure you do. It's the one in which during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing we have this exchange:
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Chairman LEAHY. We will come back to that. I would mention
one other thing, if I might, Senator Specter. Let me just ask this:
I believe—and we have had some question in this Committee to
have a special law passed declaring that Senator McCain, who was
born in the Panama Canal Zone, that he meets the constitutional
requirement to be President. I fully believe he does. I have never
had any question in my mind that he meets our constitutional requirement.
You are a former Federal judge. You are the head of the
agency that executes Federal immigration law. Do you have any
doubt in your mind—I mean, I have none in mine. Do you have any
doubt in your mind that he is constitutionally eligible to become
President?
Secretary CHERTOFF. My assumption and my understanding is
that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-
born American citizen.

Chairman LEAHY. That is mine, too. Thank you.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-11...0shrg45594.pdf
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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The thing is though, no one is listening to you "truth" seekers anymore. No one takes you seriously. Even if you find that breakthrough you are looking for, no one cares at this point.
Just like no one cares that...

Wall Street execs violate SEC rules - no negative consequences, and in fact, they're enriched
Congress members violate ethics rules - no negative consequences, and in fact, they're enriched

You DO realize that the fact that "no one cares" is exactly WHY we have the above, no?
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Just like no one cares that...

Wall Street execs violate SEC rules - no negative consequences, and in fact, they're enriched
Congress members violate ethics rules - no negative consequences, and in fact, they're enriched

You DO realize that the fact that "no one cares" is exactly WHY we have the above, no?
You are right, but the fact remains, no one cares. You are pounding sand my freind. Why not concentrate your efforts on a matter that someone does care about and where you may stand a chance to make a difference? If you waste your energy on this issue, no one will take you seriously on any other, and what a shame that would be because I'm sure you have valuable input.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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You are right, but the fact remains, no one cares. You are pounding sand my freind. Why not concentrate your efforts on a matter that someone does care about and where you may stand a chance to make a difference? If you waste your energy on this issue, no one will take you seriously on any other, and what a shame that would be because I'm sure you have valuable input.
It's not a pick and choose kind of thing. The fish rots from the head.

Didn't Matt Taibbi remind us all of that?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-jail-20110216
https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/12/13-8
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