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Old 04-03-2013, 09:25 PM
 
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Well, for your answer, I might suggest you look at how libs defend 0bama's 'military' experience when it's pointed out he has none. They get all het up about it.
How about Wikipeda?

Civilian control of the military - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The establishment of a civilian president or other government figure as the military's commander-in-chief within the chain of command is one legal construct for the propagation of civilian control.
In the United States, Article I of the Constitution gives the Congress the power to declare war (in the War Powers Clause), while Article II of the Constitution establishes the President as the commander-in-chief.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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I'm well aware that different states have different laws. So the basis for your saying that "public urination" makes you a sex offender is Colorado law. In Colorado you have to register for that "crime." Not true in Florida for sure.
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In WHAT state has this happened that you are aware of.... I don't think that is the law in California, or anywhere else. There is a very specific set of criteria regarding being classified as a sex offender and having to register as a sex offender....set out in the laws.
I was simply pointing out that your assumption was wrong and that public urination can land you on a sex registry. Somebody still has to catch you though.

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Old 04-03-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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Both of those departments are run by Chuck hagel and John Kerry, respectively. I don't trust either one of them, currently.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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How about Wikipeda?

Civilian control of the military - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The establishment of a civilian president or other government figure as the military's commander-in-chief within the chain of command is one legal construct for the propagation of civilian control.
In the United States, Article I of the Constitution gives the Congress the power to declare war (in the War Powers Clause), while Article II of the Constitution establishes the President as the commander-in-chief.
That is not a valid source.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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His 'military' experience as CiC has been pointed out by libs here several times. It's one of many sorry excuses libs come up with every now and then.

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't make you good at discussion.
Just because you make the "claim" with no proof does not make it true. Clearly, you didn't understand that our Presidents are all CIVILIAN Commanders in Chief and why.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:31 PM
 
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That is not a valid source.
ROTFLOL! Well, now I've given you a hint, you can pursue other sources. Or are you saying that the military is not subject to the power of our Civilian Commander In Chief?
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:35 PM
 
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Both of those departments are run by Chuck hagel and John Kerry, respectively. I don't trust either one of them, currently.
According to a New York state court:

"The President does not enlist in, and he is not inducted or drafted into, the armed forces. Nor, is he subject to court-martial or other military discipline. On the contrary, Article II, section 4 of the Constitution provides that ‘The President, [Vice President] and All Civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of Treason, Bribery or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.’ . . . The last two War Presidents, President Wilson and President Roosevelt, both clearly recognized the civilian nature of the President’s position as Commander in Chief. President Roosevelt, in his Navy Day Campaign speech at Shibe Park, Philadelphia, on October 27, 1944, pronounced this principle as follows:–‘It was due to no accident and no oversight that the framers of our Constitution put the command of our armed forces under civilian authority. It is the duty of the Commander in Chief to appoint the Secretaries of War and Navy and the Chiefs of Staff.’"

The Commander-in-Chief a Civilian Officer :: Article II. Executive Department :: US Constitution :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
Feel free to prove anything quoted there is false.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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ROTFLOL! Well, now I've given you a hint, you can pursue other sources. Or are you saying that the military is not subject to the power of our Civilian Commander In Chief?
I'm asking you to provide a valid source.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
Yes and no. I, as a reference librarian, do not consider Wikipedia to be a reliable ACADEMIC source - but for some things it works fine, particularly if they properly and accurately cite their primary sources (which is easy to check). I admit to using them sometimes for reference questions, mostly to get basic biographical info on an individual, or to check the order of a literary series. For some reason, they seem to be the best source for the latter.
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