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Old 04-08-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Hey pal, please stop telling your fabricated tales.

Industry did not fix anything on its own, it took thousands of workers standing up to the barbaric Captains of Industry and demanding to be treated in a certain way, and they did this even though the Captains of Industry at the time, were paying thugs to beat these workers to death.

What you do not realize, is that stone cold sociopaths are running industry and they do not care about the people who are earning them all of that money. If we take some of these leaders to the public square and execute them maybe we can motivate the others into treating their workers correctly.
The Knights of Labor and the National Labor Union were both formed in the 1880s, which was during that time industry was claimed to "fix" things.
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:13 PM
 
Location: World
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Conservatives are unhappy with even 7.25 Dollars minimum wage. It should be less so that one big boss makes more millions at the top.
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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In the 1960s, minimum wage, adjusted for inflation, was around $9-$10 an hour. Food for thought for all the Boomers on here that crow about there should be no minimum wage because it makes everything expensive and that the 1960s was the last of the Golden Era. Somehow, McDonald's and other cheap establishments managed to survive in the 60s. Hell, young adults were able to pay for their college tuition and a reasonably newish car on their own back then so I hear! So, I don't see what the problem is, foggy memory perhaps? Every single Boomer I've read on here swears that teenagers had plenty of work to go by with minimum wage being the equivalent of $9+ back then
I'm sure that's true, but they didn't have as many people in the workforce back then either. Not as many adult women working, not as many immigrants working, not as many adults looking for any kind of work including jobs teenagers used to do (car hop, fast food worker, store clerk, lawn care, etc.), and not as many illegal immigrants willing to work for low wages or even under the table.
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:54 PM
 
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Mimumu wages in 1960 was 1.25 a hour and increased to 1.60 under Johnson in 1967.Alos there was little governamnt programs to increase the actaully income nthen such has after Johno son. In many wqays welth sharig that statrted uncer johnoson has replaced earned income to a large degree. P eople would ahve shook their heads at somethig like unearned income then.The satndard of lviing for even minimum wages hyas increased over time with so much governqamnt support available.There are lots of site with the increase government support can supply.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Here
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Whenever I venture into a fastfood joint, I'm ofter helped by someone that is borderline retarded. The fact people think the guy squirting mustard onto a bun or dunking a basket of fries warrants $15/per hour has been taking too many hits off the crack pipe.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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You must have read this in a David Barton fictional history book.
All you have to do is look at government data from the time to see industry took care of these problems long before unions and government got around to it.

Stop reading union fiction and you might learn something.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Anyone who thinks raising the minimum wage is any kind of solution to anything is completely ignorant of the dynamics of the supply demand realities of economics. In addition they obviously have little or no understanding of the inflationary implications of such actions.
The problem is not the minimum wage, the problem is an oversupply of labor in relation to an undersupply of jobs.
Unless you address the root cause of a problem, it is absolutely impossible to solve it.
Of course anyone making minimum wage is not going to be able to understand any of this because the fact that they are at the bottom of the food chain is proof in itself that they have little or no understanding of how anything works.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Anyone who thinks raising the minimum wage is any kind of solution to anything is completely ignorant of the dynamics of the supply demand realities of economics. In addition they obviously have little or no understanding of the inflationary implications of such actions.
The problem is not the minimum wage, the problem is an oversupply of labor in relation to an undersupply of jobs.
Unless you address the root cause of a problem, it is absolutely impossible to solve it.
Of course anyone making minimum wage is not going to be able to understand any of this because the fact that they are at the bottom of the food chain is proof in itself that they have little or no understanding of how anything works.
Ever notice how conservatives argue that raising the minimum wage is inflationary but giving CEOs hundreds of millions in bonus -- equal to thousands of workers, is ok?

Moreover, while jimhcom is absolutely convinced he is correct to the point of being highly condescending to anyone with a different view, there is no conclusive research that shows that raising the minimum wage lowers employment. There is plenty of research that shows the opposite in the numerous cases that the MW was raised.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Ever notice how conservatives argue that raising the minimum wage is inflationary but giving CEOs hundreds of millions in bonus -- equal to thousands of workers, is ok?

Moreover, while jimhcom is absolutely convinced he is correct to the point of being highly condescending to anyone with a different view, there is no conclusive research that shows that raising the minimum wage lowers employment. There is plenty of research that shows the opposite in the numerous cases that the MW was raised.
Usually a bonus is tied to performance and profits.
A bonus from profits is not the same as a salary from operating expenses.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:19 PM
 
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Wait until 20 million illegals enter the labor market. Those people think $5 an hour is dream pay!
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