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View Poll Results: should gays be allowed to coach
yes they should 103 68.21%
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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My aunt was married to a gay man for around 45 years until he died a couple years ago. They had three children. He had boyfriends the entire time they were married. It is probably less common for gay people to marry people of the opposite sex today but much more common in the past.

BTW, are you inferring that since Sandusky was a pedophile, he could not be gay? According to the DSM-IV-TR® Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, pedophilia is defined as "a sexual preference for children, boys or girls or both, usually of prepubertal or early pubertal age. In Sandusky's case, he would first approach boys when they were 8–12 years-old. His relationships with them continued until at least they were in high school. The Sandusky charges were initiated at Clinton County High School, where a student made allegations of abuse against Sandusky. So he was not only attracted to prepubertal or early pubertal age children.
I was not inferring anything, except the fact that Sandusky was married for 50 years. There are homosexual and heterosexual pedophiles. There are homosexual and heterosexual murders. There is good and bad in every group. But considering that there is no evidence that Sandusky EVER had a homosexual ADULT orientation, he was a heterosexual (adult orientation) and a pedophile (attracted to children).
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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My aunt was married to a gay man for around 45 years until he died a couple years ago. They had three children. He had boyfriends the entire time they were married. It is probably less common for gay people to marry people of the opposite sex today but much more common in the past.

BTW, are you inferring that since Sandusky was a pedophile, he could not be gay? According to the DSM-IV-TR® Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, pedophilia is defined as "a sexual preference for children, boys or girls or both, usually of prepubertal or early pubertal age. In Sandusky's case, he would first approach boys when they were 8–12 years-old. His relationships with them continued until at least they were in high school. The Sandusky charges were initiated at Clinton County High School, where a student made allegations of abuse against Sandusky. So he was not only attracted to prepubertal or early pubertal age children.

Any evidence that he ever sought relationships with GROWN men....ya know, fully developed men? That he had a membership at MEN.com perhaps? Or a secret lover of 20+ years in age?


Heterosexual and homosexual are adult orientations... you are attracted to the secondary sex characteristics of adults.

What was the age of his oldest victim?

I admit it's a vague area when dealing with teenagers.... many heterosexual men in mature relationships with women will find themselves enjoying the company and appreciation of high school girls, and their daughter's friends. Not sure I find this disturbing for the attraction in and of itself... throughout history men married teen girls. It's definitely creepy at the least....and of course if acted upon in today's society, its an abuse of power and exploitation of the young.

I wouldn't necessarily call someone who has sex with a 16 year old a PEDOphile.... though there would definitely be something wrong if that's what they seek for their sexual fulfillment.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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Fast forward to the present. Times have certainly changed. No students take showers after gym class in junior high/middle school or high school today. High school and junior high female athletes almost never take showers after practices or games. They usually travel to away games and meets in sweats or warm-ups. In the 70s, we traveled in blazers and ties, and showered before we got back on the bus. Boys will occasionally take showers today, but it is the exception.
Sort of. Our entire attitude toward exposure has changed in the forty years since I was in high school, and I suspect that the influence of single-parent, female-headed housholds, which tended to use the female model for all sibilings, is the reason.

Another factor that hasn't been brought up is that bathing facilities weren't as good for many of us back then. My family's house had a bathtub, but no shower, and I knew of a few people who had less. A relative of mine who grew up on the 1930's told of pupils who appreciated the showers in the "new" (built in 1932) high school to the point where they would come in before the school day started, with permission, to bathe.

Finally, the adolescent attitude toward personal hygiene changes for everyone somewhere between the seventh grade and graduation. When I was in Junior High, you might walk into the shower, stand under it for a minute, and towel off. By the time I was a sohpmore, many of us brought our own soap and actually cleaned up.

But we have become a nation ruled by a mentality that expects a far-too-great level of security in every aspect of our lives, while simultaneously preserving a wide renge of personal options, and all under the obsessive-compulsive group-"think"(??) of Political Correctess, That folly is what is driving our societal costs through the roof, while simulataneously allowing incidents like Sandusky and Sandy Hook to fall through the cracks.

And I can only see the process becoming more convoluted, the power games more complicated and obsessive, and the occasional tragic consequences likely to continue.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:26 PM
 
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Face it.

The vast majority of child molesters are heterosexual men - with a heterosexual adult sexual orientation.

Not straight women, not lesbians, not gay men.

A small minority of child molesters are true pedophiles with no adult sexual orientation. (about 7% according to one of the largest studies of over 4000 child molesters)
"The vast majority of child molesters are heterosexual men - with a heterosexual adult sexual orientation. "
And any study that varied from that would be attacked by the majority of the GLBT community. Actually, anything and everything that paints Gays or Lesbians in a bad light is denied and attacked. I guess Y'all are superior in every way to Heteros with no exceptions. Absolutely no issues what so ever in the GLBT community

If the arguments were not so one sided I would find them more believable.

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I was not inferring anything, except the fact that Sandusky was married for 50 years. There are homosexual and heterosexual pedophiles. There are homosexual and heterosexual murders. There is good and bad in every group. But considering that there is no evidence that Sandusky EVER had a homosexual ADULT orientation, he was a heterosexual (adult orientation) and a pedophile (attracted to children).
Sounds reasonable across the board.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:25 PM
 
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Only ignorant anti-gay bigots like Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams
As usual your wrong

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